Have bumped into a lot of W&L lax guys over my years on the street.
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Good point, I hadnât understood these are all firm offers from these coaches.
Itâs really important that OPâs S understand the timing for each coach and how long the offer will be open. Some coaches only give a few days, some a week or two, some a month. Itâs Oct 7th and the ED clock is ticking.
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This site placed NYU slightly higher than W&L, even when adjusted for enrollment:
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Thatâs the one I had seen, but obviously misremembered.
We have relayed that, but so far none of the coaches have given any deadlines or any pressure. The schools with early action have said he could even apply early action if he wants. Theyâve been great so far, but we do know he needs to start making some decisions.
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Love the LACs, and some of them have good alum support on Wall St. Their âfeederâ numbers certainly seem to look good on a per capita basis.
Somewhat misleading though. I wouldnât be surprised if half the kids at Midd and other peer schools are getting their finance job/internship through a parent or a friend of a parent. It seems that way. Ask one. There will often be a pause, a sheepish laugh, and then âyah, my dad/mom basically got this for me.â
Not saying it doesnât happen at Stern and other large schools too, but it distorts the LAC feeder numbers. Itâs frequently not as simple as âthey came to campus, interviewed me, invited me back, x rounds later, I got the job/internshipâ. The jobs can land in mysterious ways.
Something to consider.
OP: Are all offers firm ?
Upthread the OP stated all are âgreen light with full support.â
Seems to me that there may be a disconnect here. Offers in D3 (or D1) do not typically remain open for an extended period of time. Many athletes who are also strong students want spots at those schools. Even having an option for a full month would be out of the ordinary.
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Yep. Usually thereâs a pretty firm deadline for responding.
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Iâll try to clear up any questions about the timeline/deadlines.
To start, an older son (not CMU son) was recruited by 3 of the 5 schools for the same sport. He submitted for prereads at 2 of those 3. He ultimately decided not to ED at one of the schools. The other school said he could EA. He was also being recruited by other schools and ended up not committing until Christmas break. There was never any pressure to commit other than the need to ED at the one school.
This current son submitted everything for prereads to Wesleyan and NYU over the summer. They said they didnât need SAT scores unless they were 1550+ as they would not submit them otherwise. He was wanting to hold off on Case and W&L, with their agreement, until the August SAT to see if he could get his score up (which he did, but not quite 1550). Wesleyan got the green light in July. NYU said they wouldnât get the results until October which is exactly what happened. Case and W&L submitted the prereads mid-late September after the better SAT score. Chicago had gone silent for a couple months and only reached out to see if they were still on our sonâs radar in the last 3-4 weeks. I assume they missed out on their top target at his position for some reason. They then submitted his preread. So, 4 of the 5 prereads have only been done in the last few weeks. He hasnât been sitting on them for months. We do know some decisions will need to be made soon, but we donât believe there have been any misunderstandings or miscommunications.
I hope this answers all of those questions. If anyone has any other inputs on the schools themselves or has other questions, I look forward to hearing them. This has been very useful to our family.
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Hereâs the URL for the Wesleyan consulting page:
Astonishing.
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Athletic recruiting works in mysterious ways to those who arenât in the conversation between admissions and the coaches. There are other schools that behave like Wesleyan and NYU wrt fully supported recruited athletes submitting test scores.
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A target of 1550 just seems extremely high if the AO is willing to approve a pre-read without test scores. Wesleyanâs latest CDS has 750 as the 75th percentile in Verbal and 720 in Math. A combined 1550 probably puts a student in the top decile. Donât doubt the figure, but seems strange.
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my son was told the same thing and I thought it felt off.
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The one thing I can think of is that at a 1550+ the AO will treat the recruit as an admit without the coach having to use an athletic chit, almost a super band 1.
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This is how I read it. Icing on the cake. May still use a coaches chit or not, but kinda locked admit.
Why would you think that this is any different at feeder LACs relative to any of the other usual suspects? I wouldnât expect it to be any different at Stern or Gabelli given their proximity to Wall St. I would be very surprised if the behavior at the typical Ivy differs from the LACs for kids that look the same.
I know a bunch of recent kids with excellent Finance success from schools fitting all of these profiles. I do think that there are real differences that people might want to consider when it comes to the LACs and Finance recruiting, the biggest one being the athletic component. It really does seem to open many doors. The top LACs have constant events and onsite recruiting like other feeder schools but another thing that they have is alumni who are very active in support. I know coaches with contact lists for their athletes looking at Consulting, Finance, Medicine, Law, etc. Very successful people who are actively looking to help.
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Both of my kids went to Cornell. The older one knew she wanted to go into IB very early on. Due to the size of school they had a lot of alumni in banking. The winter she was applying for her summer internship, the alumni in NYC at most major banks organized meet and greet for the Cornell applicants. The interviewers (recruiters) were at those parties and my daughter met many of her interviewers early. She got offers from many of those banks. The firm she ended up at had a recruiting a committee. My daughter said committee members pushed for their own schoolâs graduates, and Cornell had quite a few alumni on the committee.
It was many years ago when D1 graduated and recruiting probably has changed quite a bit, from in person to online. D1 is still in banking, sales and trading. She made MD few years ago. She works hard, but not crazy hours any more. When she is not traveling or entertaining, she can be home by 6 and no weekends. She likes what she is doing. She said it is no better or worse than other jobs, but it pays. 
I have a younger daughter working at a white shoe law firm. She is not a partner yet. She works crazy hours and doesnât do as well financially. So far, she is still liking her work.
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