yes, @Mastadon, they were deans of college who is a female and dean of specific engineering departments ( EE) who was a male. so i was talking about them ( sometimes the female and sometimes the male) Anyways I chose Iowa State at the end of the day. it stood out to me as a whole after i visited all the schools on my List. UIUC was the first choice and then Iowa State. but i chose Iowa State at the end so i hope i enjoy my next four years being a Cyclone !! Thanks to all who helped !