<p>I thought you could not collect if you are a ft student.</p>
<p>I’m an employer. Every time we fire someone, our unemployment insurance rates increase, and it takes years of no firings for them to go back down. So, bottom line, by arranging to get himself fired so he can “take a break” at someone else’s expense, your son would be taking money out of his employer’s pocket. Where I come from we call that stealing. And if that’s too “high and mighty” for ya, well, unethical behavior is bad enough–supporting your kid’s unethical behavior is really reprehensible. Be a parent and tell him absolutely not.</p>
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<p>This was my thought. It’s been a while since I filled out an application, but there often is a line that says something like: “reason for leaving.” I wouldn’t want to have to write down for the next 10 years that I was fired from my job. </p>
<p>Of course, you’d explain that you really aren’t a jerk, but just acted like a jerk to get fired so that you could collect unemployment while you were going to school. And that is going to make me feel comfortable looking at you as a future employee? :eek:</p>
<p>Just tell him NO…dumb idea.</p>
<p>Having a three year work history at that age is invaluable, and a little bit of unemployment insurance isn’t going to make up for dodging questions about that job forever, when it could have been a great reference for him with a stable work history. Unless of course, you and his father are billionaires and own a family business that you are passing down to him.</p>
<p>He just needs to ask for less hours and say he doesn’t have a choice. If they will not allow this, then maybe they will lay him off or he can choose to quit. And heck, if he’s going to go the unethical, short sighted route, he may as well go full on…claim a sore back or trip and fall at work, claiming workers comp. It is amazing how many people have done that. Good luck. I know how hard it is to convince your kids of the obvious right answer.</p>
<p>So, njfootballmom, ar you in NJ? Cuz NJ words it this way: Generally, in New Jersey you have to have lost your job through no fault of your own in order to collect unemployment. In most cases, this means that if you get fired, you cannot collect unemployment benefits. If you get fired from your job, you should go ahead and apply for unemployment benefits, because there are some cases where you can be fired from your job and still get benefits. This latter counts on extenuating circumstances.<br>
You have to look at the regs for whatever state.</p>
<p>*further from NJ: *If you are a full-time student, you may be disqualified from benefits while you are attending school and during scheduled vacation periods unless: You have sufficient wages to establish an unemployment insurance claim based on wages earned while you were attending school (but not during vacation periods). *</p>
<p>Why didn’t your son get the promotion? Has he asked what he can do to get the next one? He’s very young, and clearly somewhat impetuous; does he understand how important references are?</p>
<p>I am another one in the camp of don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. No future employer is going to turn a blind eye to a person who held a job for 3 years. They are going to ask why he left. On most applications they are going to ask for his reason for leaving. They are going to want to contact his employer. If he is not in a position where he is going to want to offer the name of a person for a recommendation, it is going to send up big red flags.</p>
<p>While he may be a very hard worker, he may need come coaching/counseling on how to be an effective manager/leader. There are usually 3 components that a hiring manager looks for in an employee; can do, will do, fit in.</p>
<p>As he gets older and go out into the world of work, he may find himself being passed over for other jobs that he feels he should have gotten. The mature thing to do is not to get mad and look for ways to quit, but to ask to meet with the hiring manager and get some feedback. He needs to find out what he is good at and what are his areas for opportunity/improvement.</p>
<p>no issues with quitting… definitely issues with “trying to get fired” that could come back to haunt him later.</p>
<p>Future employers will check with past employers to see if they are “eligible for rehire” or terminated for cause. If they are terminated for cause, then they will ask for more information on the application or simply terminate hiring proceedings at that point.</p>
<p>So, I think that is a good reason why he shouldn’t get fired. It will reflect poorly on a future employment background check should he apply to work at a place that does detailed screening of applicants.</p>
<p>Don’t get fired. It will hurt you in ways that are very difficult to recover from. </p>
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<p>Absolutely. This is pure gospel. Ignore it at your peril.</p>