Thanks so much for the advice and helpful to hear how the process went for your daughter. Yes aware of the pre-read process so understand the timing if we are lucky to get that far. Will keep updating. Attending some other ID camps this winter and spring.
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Anyone know whether any of the NESCAC lacrosse teams take admitted walk ons and how it works?
Once committed to the school, your student should email the coach and introduce themselves and ask
about the walk on process. They may say for you student to check in when they arrive in the Fall or they may be happy to start a dialog now. Send stats and relevant info in the intro email too. You could also see if the accepted school has a club team too.
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Bring this back up since itâs July 1. What happens if you donât hear anything back from a preread today? Should the player follow up with the coach?
Iâm not sure how it works for NESCAC, but I believe the Ivy League gives a date that pre reads can start, and the results filter in after that. I suspect it is the same for NASCAC. My guess is that the pile of perspective recruits will be prioritized by sport, coach concern, and how much the athlete is prioritized. I donât think my son ever heard back an official âyou passed the pre read,â but coaches kept recruiting him. You hear about recruits who need slots and recruits who need tips in NASCAC recruiting. Donât expect to be told which bin you were placed in. Unless there is a problem, the coach is not likely to pass along much feedback from the pre read to you.
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Many NESCAC coaches submitted many pre-reads today. It takes time for admissions to go thru them. I wouldnât have your student follow up for two weeks if they havenât heard anything by then. I also agree that not every coach is going to get back to athletes and say hey, you passed the pre-read.
Did the coach(es) your student is in contact with communicate the timeline and what to expect when? If not, that is the type of info your student should be getting.
Lastly, remember many coaches send in more pre-reads than they have slots/offers to make. It can take awhile for things to shake out, sooner for higher priority potential recruits. Your student should also be asking coaches where they stand in the recruiting list. Good luck.
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We know someone who received their offer promptly today. They can be quite efficient when they want to.
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Thank you! She has a few pre-reads but coaches were vague about timing of offers. She should find out where she is on their lists. I will follow up with her about that. The coaches seem very interested with phone calls, zooms, watching her play but hard to know when the offer is supposed to come. Maybe every coach has a different timeframe?
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Exactly. I hope my kid lands somewhere! This process is so hard.
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Yes, they may have different timeframes for giving out offers, some may want to have top recruits visit when school starts for example while some coaches will try to wrap up their top choices ASAP. The uncertainty of things can be challenging for everyoneâŠathletes, parents, and coaches.
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Hang in there! It is hard.
But if sheâs getting prereads now, she will land somewhere.
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They will. And coaches/sports will play it differently. We went to two NESCAC OVs in the fall and each had about 2x as many kids as offers to be made and not until then.
There is also the wait of offers trickling down. Some athletes especially the ones getting these early calls, will get several offers but in the end they can only accept one.
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When my dd (2021 HS grad) was going through the pre-read process with the one NESCAC she was interested in, she heard back by the end of the first week of July and was made an âofferâ of a spot on the team and was asked to apply ED. She then was given two weeks to get back to the coach with her answer. Even then, admission is not guaranteed so she had to put in the work to keep her grades up and keep with the senior year schedule she had sent the school.
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Thatâs good to hear. The dominoes need to fall. As other girls accept offers and then get crossed off the list at other places. That makes sense. Thanks!
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Question to you and others re: slots and tips.
Weâve come across schools with slots & tips, and others that only seem to use slots, at least for a couple of non-contact sports. In the latter case, if one clears the pre-read bar, the coach appears to be able to recruit anyone they want via a slot.
So my question is, at a school in a sport that uses slots & tips, when a coach says âI would like to make you an offer with full coach support if you apply ED1â, is that necessarily a slot that is being used? Or, for a prioritized athlete with also very high academics, could a coach make that statement but merely use a tip with admissions? In so doing, the coach would save their slots for kids that need the admissions boost due to lower academics. Or are tips normally used for non-priority athletes with high academics?
Does a tip have a higher risk of ED1 failure than the use of a slot?
In our case, more than one school has said âfull coach support in ED1â, but another has said âcoach support in ED1 but your academics are so strong that I (the coach) donât need to use a slot with you, I just need to speak to admissions.
In this last case, the school/team is most likely not our kidâs first-choice and we are just trying to understand the risks of slots vs. tips, and if one can normally distinguish when merely a tip is being used.
Thanks in advance!
If you have coach support, it doesnât matter what it is. Tips and slots are really more for the coach and admissions to work out.
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I agree if the coach is saying full coach support, it doesnât matter what the school calls the various types of recruiting buckets. Have your student ask the coach âwhat proportion of recruits with the same level of support you are giving me have historically been accepted.â
It can and does matter if the student is receiving full support or âsoftâ support, which is something less than full support. Not all NESCACs and coaches use the same terminology, which can make things harder to understand, thatâs why the student has to ask questions.
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My daughter just finished freshman year at a NESCAC. She was in frequent communication with coaches and had asked point blank if they thought sheâd pass pre-read, and when she could expect to hear. Her top choice (where she ultimately attends/plays) told her that if she passed the pre-read, sheâd call her with offer right on 7/1. Another NESCAC coach told her that she planned on having all offers out by 7/15. Your child should follow up with coach, but ideally would have asked next steps, when they could expect to hear. It does vary, but for some sports, the top recruits hear on 7/1 or shortly thereafter. In our experience (and of course, this is a generalization- not true for all), the more vague a coach is, the farther down on their list your athlete is.
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Thank you for this, and others who replied.
Several nice calls yesterday and kid is now happy to make a decision and move on from a long and lengthy recruiting dance.
Best of luck to kids and parents on this thread throughout this summer and fall.
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In our experience (and it is also logical), the top recruits will be handled quickly as to pre-reads/OVâs/offers. The coach has an incentive to show love early because those recruits most likely will also be top recruits for other academic D3âs and even some Ivies, so the coaches want to get in front of them sooner rather than later and will recruit hard.
If you are the bottom of the list, but still are worthy of a pre-read, I would not be surprised if your calls/emails donât get returned promptly, you get vague answers or are even ghosted for a while.
The hard group to figure out is if you are â5-8â when the coach can only support â4â. They need to show love because most likely they wonât get all top 4 but at the same time they need to get a read on what the top 4 yield will be. Signals are easily mixed then.
Again, the experiences vary by recruit, school, sport and coach, but the driving dynamics of this musical chairs are what they are.
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