<p>Re: Endicottt</p>
<p>I recall a fairly recent thread where a couple of posters noted that Endicott (which I do not believe to be test optional) is working hard to move up in the rankings. If you do a title search with “Endicott” you should have no problem finding the thread.</p>
<p>Regarding applying to Providence without submitting SAT scores - what would be the minimum GAP?</p>
<p>^^ I don’t believe there is one. They are truly TEST OPTIONAL (at least they were when S applied 3 years ago). Not “test optional if you meet a certain standard.”</p>
<p>That said, they do have a pretty strong average GPA. Don’t know exactly what it is though, I’m sure its on their website.</p>
<p>one option would be to access their CDS data and see what percentile your son’s GPA and scores match. Then use those to gaugue your son’s chances.</p>
<p>Have you tried the Providence forum?</p>
<p>Here is the link to Providence’s CDS.
<a href=“http://www.providence.edu/NR/rdonlyres/A98F94A8-ED44-4BF5-B82E-CB222DE7D483/12783/PC_Common_Data_Set_2007_2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.providence.edu/NR/rdonlyres/A98F94A8-ED44-4BF5-B82E-CB222DE7D483/12783/PC_Common_Data_Set_2007_2008.pdf</a>
It says their average GPA is 3.45. 23% had GPA greater than 3.757. 26% had GPA between 3…5 and 3.74. 28% had GPA between 3.25 and 3.49. 17% had a GPA between 3.0 and 3.24.</p>
<p>2daughtermom, when I plug in a 3.2 GPA and an ACT Composite of 22 on Elmira’s “Scholarship Calculator”, it comes up with a merit award of $18,000/year for all 4 years if you maintain the 3.0 GPA. That would be a total of $72,000 off sticker price for the four years at Elmira. I did not know your D’s SAT scores or class rank so I could not plug that information in. Elmira is very up front about merit aid on their website. My D was accepted there, but did not enroll, ended up at Alfred University.</p>
<p>2daughtermom
Seton Hall (NJ) might be an option - the application fee is waived if you apply by Dec 15,
automatic scholarship consideration and a quick decision. My daughters test scores are not that good either. The strategy we are pursuing: Find colleges that fit our criteria (smaller, academic major, graduation rate, acceptance rate …) from those schools - see which fall into her range and focus on test optional schools (but we have a few test required schools, such as Seton Hall); Interview and write a great essay. Some test optional schools require a graded paper instead of test scores, so she has been focusing on putting her all into her honors history paper (going the extra mile and having her teacher critique a few times before it’s due). From visiting this site and the college websites we’ve been trying to “guess” what some of the schools want. Little things that may give her an edge, like applying to a some non-East coast schools, she is interested in Japanese/Asian studies (I realize her major may change but she is listing that instead of undecided) - I looked at the list of colleges that had unfilled spaces last year (hoping that they may accept more students this year). Responding to chat and question emails from the colleges.
Don’t know if any of these things will help but from my point of view, having a child that falls into this range I’m taking all the little things into account and encouraging my daughter to apply to more schools. Also keeping my fingers crossed, saying a little prayer and hoping for the best. And if not accepted to a “choice” school; live at home the first year (save $$) - take core courses, do really well and transfer.</p>
<p>My son finished his junior year with a 3.3. He scored a 30 composite ACT and had comparable results on the SAT. He is a member of NHS (Fresh. and Soph. years had higher grade pt.), baseball player and many, many activities. Also several honors classes and a few APs. He’s applied ED to Elon. Do you think it will work out for him?</p>
<p>carr: from what we have been told, sounds like your son will be in NC next year…even without the higher GPA frosh and soph year…let us know…</p>
<p>carrjrr – Elon has a way of scaring off some potential applicants by posting misleading data about the average and middle 50-range GPA of its applicants: 4.0 and 3.5-4.5 respectively. If you do a little digging you will find that these reported GPAs are WEIGHTED (by Elon). Your son’s GPA is certainly within the range of accepted students and his ACT/SAT scores put him at or above the 75th percentile of accepted students. I think his admissions chances are quite good.</p>
<p>carrjrr, Elon uses a weighted core academic GPA - they add 1.0 for honors classes and 2.0 for AP, so they are basically using a 6.0 system. You can figure out where your son falls in this, if the 3.3 is UNweighted, and he’s taken “several honors and a few AP” he is probably safely in their mid-range.</p>
<p>My D has also applied to Elon ED, sounds like they may hopefully be classmates next fall!</p>
<p>2daughtersmom…do you have an update for us? Is your D feeling better?</p>
<p>2daughters: My daughter is a Junior at Scranton, absolutely loves it, works hard but has a lot of fun. Her stats were a little higher but has friends whose stats are about the same as yours. Merrit money is so -so, we but better than St Joes. We also have a son at Loyola Univ Md, better FA package, but slightly better stats. Good Luck. I think SUNY Albany would be a good bet. We visited, good school, a little to big for my kids but price and programs are very good, tends to give OSS some merrit money.</p>
<p>Here is the link to Providence’s CDS.
<a href=“http://www.providence.edu/NR/rdonlyr…_2007_2008.pdf%5B/url%5D”>http://www.providence.edu/NR/rdonlyr…_2007_2008.pdf</a>
It says their average GPA is 3.45. 23% had GPA greater than 3.757. 26% had GPA between 3…5 and 3.74. 28% had GPA between 3.25 and 3.49. 17% had a GPA between 3.0 and 3.24. </p>
<p>So if my son’s GPA is 3.2 and he does not submit SATs does he stand a chance???</p>
<p>I would be concerned that many of the 17% below 3.25 are legacies; URMs, Athletes, etc, making it a tough road for your son absent either hooks or your HS having an excellent reputation there. Do you have any recent encouraging Naviance or GC info?</p>
<p>2daughtermom- I believe that most of your schools are still realistics. PC is just getting difficult to get in. (not sure why) Check out the merit $$$ at Roger Williams. I thought that a 3.0 was the cutoff. Most kids that we know score around a 20-22 on the ACT. Only on CC does it seem like a really low score…</p>
<p>My boy is going to college!!! He received his first acceptance. I had just told his GC the day before that it was my top choice for him!!! I can’t wait to revisit.</p>
<p>woohoooooo wb!!!</p>
<p>Yeah wb! Share more please!</p>
<p>Congrad WB - what school?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, no connection to Providence. Son is determined to apply so I’ll get prepared for the rejection letter.</p>