<p>“So if you’re doing nothing wrong - one has nothing to fear…”
Remember this one:
<a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/11/07/school.raid/[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/11/07/school.raid/</a>
Guns drawn, kids handcuffed, menacing canines…now there’s a civics lesson for you.</p>
<p>At least the parents should be getting some of the Fall Term Tuition Room&Board money back!</p>
<p>Privacy; to search or not; granting permission to search or not–what a complex issue! Seems when you are dealing with h.s. and even college kids, it might be best to err on the side of safety and precaution. No doubt there are Virginia Tech families who wish somebody had searched and found those weapons before the tragedy took place.</p>
<p>If kids are attending either a public or private school, and are using the school lockers to store illegal substances, or are bringing illegal substances on their person onto school grounds, what’s wrong with sniffing dogs? We are required to provide an education (public school), not a party or business opportunity!</p>
<p>“So if you are doing nothing wrong - one has nothing to fear…”</p>
<p>Yeah, because nobody can slip anything in through the ventilation slots in your standard high school locker, and nobody’s locker would ever have drug residue in it from a previous occupant.</p>
<p>Katliamom:</p>
<p>Yes, my “wonder” was rhetorical. I did think that they were not innocents feeling the rush of freedom from mom and dad and making silly boasts. This was for real.</p>
<p>As for room searches, I expect that this is the same as for car searches. Someone gets pulled in for some driving violation, and a search reveals drugs, or alcohol, or illegal guns. I take it back: it is not the same. The police had good reason to suspect there would be drugs since the kids had advertised its presence. It was not an unwarranted search (even though it might have been warrantless).</p>
<p>“I did think that they were not innocents feeling the rush of freedom from mom and dad and making silly boasts. This was for real.”</p>
<p>Sigh… I guess I’m naive.</p>
<p>Jessiehl - actually finding residue has happened at our high school - they don’t arrest for that - but funny story - my DD’s friend bought a used car - the 1st week she had it - there was a dog search of the school/parking lot - and the dog spotted on her car - on one side of it. She was called out of the school to open the car - the dog kept spotting on the door of the car… long story short - she had just bought the car - prior to her purchasing it - it had been in an accident and the door had been replaced - from a junk yard - it had come from a vehicle that was junked - but had been involved in pot transport - thus the residue inside the door - she was still innocent. Residue is not a valid arrest reason… and small amounts usually aren’t reason for arrest either - but the kid is usually spoken to about the situation - and sometimes parents are called as well.</p>
<p>There have been a couple of arrests - over the years - right out of the school - for large amounts of drugs found on the school property… - as it should be.</p>
<p>I don’t know if it has been mentioned anywhere but were these 2 students friend before arriving to college (from the same high school, neighborhood etc).</p>
<p>If these kids got matched up by the roommate questionnaire, I could imagine what the parents could possibly be thinking…</p>
<p>Part of the reason I think it is a good idea…is because the ramifications of this stuff are so great. Having dogs sniffing in the parking lot is an excellent way to give kids a very visible reminder that what they might be doing is illegal. I don’t want a police state…I don’t want illegal searches either. I don’t want it easy for a kid to buy drugs… and kids make poor choices when they are high (drugs or alcohol.) </p>
<p>We have had some real problems this summer with parties…several diff events where 1 kid stabbed another… fight at a different one where a kid got severly hurt… broke the ceramic stovetop at one home (parents away for the weekend) is just 1 example of the damage at 1 party, which continues to puzzle me…how and why did anyone smash a ceramic stovetop enough to destroy it? Some teens damaged tires on police cars… all found by the cops as they were driving…which could lead to a dangerous accident… </p>
<p>so, I am in favor of proactive things to communicate to kids we are trying to keep you safe… and my hope and prayers are that it will serve its purpose and reduce possession and usage and dealing…</p>
<p>The 2 students arrested are from neighboring towns - same general area - so very good chance they new each other - or ran in similar circles. It is not that difficult for kids involved in drugs to ‘find’ each other.</p>
<p>katliamom:</p>
<p>The problem with posting in cyberspace is you can’t see facial expressions. Also, my language may be more French than I think it is. 
“Je me demande si…” is tantamount to saying "I’m pretty sure that… "Sorry for the literal translation.</p>
<p>I know this is old but I just wanted to say…</p>
<p>Now they should go to New College of Florida or Reed. They’d fit in just fine.</p>
<p>I didn’t even know you needed college to be a drug dealer.</p>