<p>soph psat: 215 (80w, 64m, 71cr)
junior psat: 227(80w, 72m, 75cr)
junior sat: 2390(800cr, 800w, 790m)
^that’s me</p>
<p>my best friend:
junior psat: 235 (80m, 80w, 75cr)
junior sat: 2250</p>
<p>218 (SAT) v. 204 (PSAT 2005) v. 188 (PSAT 2004)</p>
<p>But did the people in the survey do some kind of preparation? If you look at the shape of the bell curve, the PSAT has a higher peak and squashed tails.
In other words, easy to move up in the middle and get a good PSAT score, but not so easy on the SAT. Conversely, not that hard to get a top SAT score, but really really hard to get a top PSAT score.
The PSAT is a weak, very vague predictor of SAT scores. Not only are the questions lower-level (i.e. math) and lower difficulty questions from old SAT’s, but it’s shorter and has no essay.</p>
<p>It’s actually the top 1.5% for Semifinalist. All others down to 95th percentile (the next 3.5%) are commended. About 1.4% are Finalists (not much selection there), and about half of that get one of the three types of Merit Scholarships, where $$$$ amount and prestige are in inverse proportion.
The top states (indices around 219-222) are always NY, CT, MA, VA, MD, NJ. Lowest tend to be usually Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, and Wyoming. So if you want that scholarship, move to the latter states, fast;)</p>
<p>montrose-- the analysis did not account for the prep factor. I’d take an educated guess though that prep work between tests would correlate well with improved scores.</p>
<p>Another interesting factor that has come to recent limelight is the SAT fatigue factor. That is, some are reporting degradation of SAT M&V scores on the order of 10 points for the “new” SAT vs the old. Don’t know how the fatigue factor, if real, would affect different bands of scorers, and certainly couldn’t tease that out of the data volunteered on this thread.</p>
<p>There are also more hard math and fewer medium-difficulty math questions on the New SATs administered thus far. How can the CB claim that the old and new tests are equivalent?
Also, can you believe that the conclusion of an ETS study that compared a number of different versions and structures for the New SAT (while in its planning stages) showed that though students perceived a fatigue effect in students who did the essay last vs. those who did it first, there was <em>no</em> discernible difference in essay score for those students?
These people really need to get their heads out of their SAS software and use some common sense.</p>
<p>Psat: 232
73
80
79</p>
<p>sat: 2320
740
780
800</p>
<p>PSAT Soph: 220
75M, 70R, 75M</p>
<p>PSAT Junior: 219
76M, 74R, 69W</p>
<p>SAT Junior: 2310
770M, 760 R, 780W</p>
<p>Yeah, apparently I’m better at SATs. Which is fine by me.</p>
<p>2090 vs 220</p>
<p>211 PSAT
2390 SAT</p>
<p>National Merit can shove it ;)</p>
<p>Wow, this is a very old thread someone bumped.</p>
<p>First PSAT (sophomore): 216</p>
<p>First SAT (junior): 2160</p>
<p>Second PSAT (junior): 218 (NMS)</p>
<p>Second SAT (senior): 2280</p>
<p>2330 v 235
Three subject tests and then college board can go die in a closet!
P.S. Baron’s math II prep book is kicking my butt…</p>