@ not very. You continue to talk about the so called benefits of the program but never address the detriments to the people footing the bill. You do know that the definiition of wealth is goods or services that can be exchanged, in which such goods and services are produced by human effort? ? And that money is a proxy for wealth? So again , when you take money(by force by the way, which is what taxation is) fom Peter and give to Paul, it is theft. Taking by force or without consent is theft, you can look up the definition.
Someone starting at $160k per year, plus $20k in bonuses, is in the top ~5% income in the nation. And, in your opinion, this person deserves tax payer help, notverysmart?
@bluebayou I don’t believe @NotVerySmart was referring to a student who makes $150k immediately after school. Instead, they were talking about someone who leaves college, makes less than $50k a year, and is encouraged to stay in the state for the benefits. Eventually, they work their way up to the top 5% income bracket and pay quite a bit of money back into NY, where they might not have stayed if not for the existence of this program.
kollegeguy, you are upset over the additional $2 tax burden. If you were paying 30K in 2004 for property taxes, you are very well off, my friend or definitely living in one of those expensive counties with excellent school systems. @Not verySmart is making good points. If we have to pay taxes, I would rather see it go to education. I get upset each year about how much I pay into the black hole. Yet, I would not call diverting funds to help our population get an education theft,
@lia, this is not about a $2 tax burden or about education, your missing the point
@kollegeguy What exactly is it about if not the tax burden or education?
I don’t know where to start, except to say that I think on average college “education” has done more harm then good for most. End of this thread for me.
Where are you even on this site if you’re against college?
I am not against college, I am not sure where you got that from. I inferred that incorrect “knowledge” is sometimes more dangerous than just plain ignorance. We have plenty of examples in our shining capital city in DC where they have graduated from “prestigious” universities only to display a shockingly low level understanding, if any at all, on the subject of economics, free markets and liberty in general.
“On average college ‘education’ has done more harm then good”
I wouldn’t exactly describe that as a positive attitude towards higher education.
Anyway, I’d rather not get into an online political discussion, so I’ll leave the discussion as well.
Well if that money was spent on a SUNY, giving it back makes sense since the schools are nothing like their PR suggests. So much for truth in advertising! But until the quality issues can be addressed, giving back the borrowed money used for tuition seems only fair.