Only about 5% and for OOS merit at flagships that’s what’s needed ( at a minimum). However at non flagships and private colleges, a 1300 may suffice, or even less depending on what the college’s top 25% threshold is. Not sure it’d being the bill to 28k so this student would have to apply broadly.
My cousin’s son, also from Upstate NY, went to Delaware on a full scholarship, so there is merit available there. They love their football there and sell out their stadium.
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Ya. York won’t hit $28k as a private but could get $30k-ish as another private. Merit is “up to $13k.
OP does really need to figure out the need situation. Perhaps they can get help from a financial aid officer in filling out the NPCs of some.
Washington College, mentioned by @AustenNut, had financial issues a few years ago. They might be aggressive.
Washington & Jefferson is relatively inexpensive with merit I believe at $17k for this student. This year direct costs are $45,626.
But if $28k is a stretch for OP, meaning they need less because there’s books and fun. (Although the student may have a job to help).
The point being - OP needs a realistic list - not the I don’t think so but u never know - hello UDel. Not happening at close to $28k.
University of Maine does a “flagship match” for tuition for NY State residents. They will use SUNY flagship (Buffalo & Stony Brook) tuition & fees, which is currently about $11,000, but they will use Maine room & board, which at $14,000 is a few thousand less than SUNY. So, they would come in at $25,000 + some inflation increase for next year.
CAUTION - Verify with University of Maine Admissiins that New York State residents are eligible for this program.
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Great. I was looking and couldn’t find NY on their list.
They are D1 (FCS for football) - don’t know about spirit. Great choice.
This is what @Bill_Marsh was alluding to. I can’t find the list of eligible states. Their info is opaque.
Flagship Scholars Commitment Program
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I don’t see those blue schools hitting budget with merit. My kids with higher stats didn’t, actually the only NE schools that came in with enough merit to get costs down to $30,000 were SUNY Bing, Temple and St. Joe’s in Philadelphia (that was actually under $25,000 off SJ). Only one B on their transcripts. My son was offered $10,000 (4 years ago) from Syracuse with a 3.7, 30 act, I was surprised he got that much (I was also surprised he applied because it was so out of our price range).
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When my nephew’s daughter toured HWS last year, the tour guide encouraged them to get an offer from another college and use if for leverage to negotiate a better deal if the HWS offer wasn’t as good. Allegheny was suggested as a school to use which might be viewed favorably by HWS for comparison purposes. She did not end up going there, but went to Manhattan University instead where she got a better deal.
As you know, HWS is one of those colleges which plays up in a single sport - Division I in Lacrosse despite being D III in everything else.
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Nope. The highest scholarship is $17,000, but that’s with a high gpa and test scores (1400/33+). Before COVID test scores were even more important. The 100 that are offered even more are the Val’s/sals 35/36 act’s. The stadium seats only 18000 and never fills except family weekend. The students do have school spirit outside athletics, on game days you will find them daging at house parties. My 3.7 30 act was offered $10,000 4 years ago.
My daughter applied to 20 colleges, mostly northeast flagships. I don’t think they’re going to work even if she hits 1500 sat (did you figure out her unweighted gpa?) Maybe Towson (my daughter didn’t apply there).
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I can’t find the NY match on Maine’s website. Are we sure they still do ? Maine Farmington is tiny but with OOS merit would come in just over budget for tuition, room and board. Edit - I found the program (posted above) but they list no states.
@AustenNut mentioned Salisbury. Today - not in two years - direct costs are $37k with merit at $8500 so $28.5k.
Slippery Rock in PA is $29200 but has an unknown amount of merit. So surely will be under.
I think the student time (for publics) is best spent in NY and PA secondary schools like Slippery Rock and E Stroudsburg.
Rhode Island College (not URI) will also meet as it’s under $28k today all in with the Northeast Neighbors program.
Of course, at any school costs in two years are unknown - and there may be annual increases (but often offset by moving off campus where it often costs less to live).
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This may open ideas
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Likely out of your travel range but my average 3.3 gpa daughter will be attending Central Michigan University this fall for well under 28k. They don’t charge oos tuition and offer automerit for test optional GPA (listed online). My daughter got the MAC Scholars scholarship from the college as well. Add in a federal grant (due to our income that year) and a single 5k local scholarship we are paying well under 15k a year total.
D1 sports, supportive professors, lots of support with choosing a major, midsize manageable campus in a suburban/rural environment (a true college town and can walk to Target/Walmart/Kohls/TJMaxx and about a dozen fast food places), can be a bit of a party college vibe, dorm food decent, all suite style dorms (no communal bathrooms), downsize is travel to and from as its about 1.5 hr to a major city. Diversity is a B+ grade but my nonwhite daughter felt comfortable there. (Sports and Professors get an A- and party gets an A so there is that. My daughter is not a huge party girl but she still felt she would find her people there. Overall grade is a B on niche. The C+ for location is because it is a bit more isolated but again, that was not a negative for my daughter).
She felt she would be safe walking around campus and the area with friends. She did not want an urban school and she preferred a true college town experience over city life with “lots to do” as she wanted school to be the experience if that makes sense. She attended the CM U and You day in September her senior year and it went from being a school she had never heard of to the place she compared every other school to. Their social media pages do a good job of showing the vibe on campus.
Also out of your location range a bit may be East Carolina University. They start at 35k total with some wiggle room with merit.
My son is at Syracuse and yes they give money but I would only apply if kid went into it not falling in love with the school knowing that your budget was firm. I call Central Mich a bit of “Syracuse Lite.”
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Sorry, but New York came up when I first checked, but on other sites it’s not coming up. Color me confused. The only way to be sure is to contact University of Maine Admissions Office. I would do so myself, but I’m out of the country right now and am nit able to do so.
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Maybe too close to home but the Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts - formerly North Adams State - makes the grade b4 merit. Tuition is just over $12k for NYers.
Sorry so many but these are reasonable finds worth your investigation - using cost as a barometer and nothing else.
Not sure of the possible major and will they have it but they have beyond liberal arts such as business and CS.
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SUNY is the best bet here. I think it will be difficult to get the type of school that this student desires at a cost that is affordable for the family.
Football and hockey have a large presence at UB. The north campus is not particularly attractive to some/many, but the south campus could be…as it is more traditional. It is also an excellent academic institution.
Students at Cortland are very much into sports. While it is not a Penn State (or similar school), it does have its own school spirit. It is also a nicer looking school than some of the larger universities…in my subjective opinion. SUNY does not have a reputation for being “pretty.”
I doubt that UDel will be affordable, but some of the others could be- apply and see.
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The Delaware Blue Hens were #8 nationally in attendance last year among FCS programs with a per game average of 17,329, which represents 96% of capacity.
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Nope. The highest scholarship is full tuition, room & board. It’s associated with the Honors College and is explained right on their website’s Admissions page. As I posted, my cousin’s son got one as an out of state student. I’m not saying that this student will get one, I’m just posting what’s available.
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Actually, Allegheny might be a good suggestion to check out in general. They are a relatively old college with a strong sense of tradition, and it is the northernmost college in the Presidents’ Athletic Conference, which is mostly in Western PA (a few are just across the border in Ohio or WVA), an area where sports has a pretty good following.
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My daughter is a UDel honors graduate, she was 8th in her HS class of 300, 3.95 34 act. She got $17,000 a year. All of her closest friends were in the honors college, including her boyfriend of 7 years. The only other student from our HS that year was salutatorian, 4.0 gpa 35 act. She did receive 1 of the 100 invites for weekend where they give out additional scholarships (didn’t get the full ride though). As for football, my daughter said the games were not well attended, but there were some who just tailgated. She said it was much different than going to a game with her sister at Clemson. Band parents have complained on the parent pages about the lack of football love at UD. It’s a small stadium that didn’t fill up, at least when my daughter was there.
Our twins also applied, 3.95 33 act (10th in class) was offered $15,000, 3.7 30 act $10,000.
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Back to your earlier comment on you thought the universe at $28k would be more - nope. Some schools run $90k plus. They are businesses. But like businesses with less demand, some have to invent to find people - like a car that doesn’t sell. On the private level, that’s your need to find - hence some listed above.
Don’t know your income - is it $70k or less - then questbridge could be an option but with 3 529s I’m guessing not.
Syracuse - not easy to afford or get in but as for as filling out the NPC, they say
An experienced Syracuse University financial aid specialist is just a call or click away.
Use the schools. Many need you more than you need them.
As for UD, while I personally think for this student it’s time wasted and runs the risk she may fall in love, but @Bill_Marsh is correct about the full ride - they have the DuPont Scholars - but these type programs usually have Ivy League level students. Doesn’t seem this is OP.
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