<p>^^ also taking the mid-50% is not an accurate average, there is a large margin of error.</p>
<p>My statistics for Cornell were for admissions; they are correct.</p>
<p>redcrimblue,</p>
<p>As a Cornell grad/student, you can do better than that?</p>
<p>elsijfdl,</p>
<p>Yes, there could be error and I kinda stated it. It depends on the distribution. The mean is usually less than the median from what I’ve seen (not by very much, <20-30 pts, however).</p>
<p>Haha… I would say pick the place you like better! You won’t regret it!</p>
<p>Both schools are probably equally difficult to get into…</p>
<p>But if you want to know my personal opinon about what school to pick. I would definitely go for Cornell…</p>
<p>well if we’re offering opinions, Northwestern is so much better than Cornell.</p>
<p>unless you like the wilderness, a huge school, and competitive classmates</p>
<p>redcrim…you are still going to perpetuate that range as fact despite seeing what I provided OFF of the official website…WOW</p>
<p>I usually see the two associated with each other along with Penn, the preprofessional three.</p>
<p>From scores, Northwestern seems to have slightly higher standards, but they way I see it, both schools are equally competitive.</p>
<p>Personally, I’m not into the boonies so I’d go for Northwestern had I applied to both schools, but I won’t deny, Cornell’s campus was breathtaking when I visited years ago.</p>
<p>columbia–I’ll reiterate. The statistics I provided are for admissions, not enrollment. To try to make it clearer, they are for those who were admitted, not for those who enrolled. Again, as I said, they are correct.</p>
<p>redcrimblue,</p>
<p>At least the admit rate was NOT correct. You said 14% when it’s actually 20%. Columbiahopeful was using stats for enrollment in post #4, so why were you using stats for admissions in post #9 when you were clearly responding to his post. Even if it’s done unintentionally, your post was very misleading. That you didn’t provide any link didn’t help your credibility either.</p>
<p>okay lets please return to my original question…thanks</p>
<p>“northwestern likely shares very many cross-admits with HYPS in comparison to cornell”</p>
<p>ya right…keep dreaming. the students at hyps are in a different league than those at northwestern. if anything i would imagine cornell would share more cross admits with them than northwestern.</p>
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<p>Actually, ucchris, contrary to what people think in California, a lot of my friends here at the humble “S” of the HYPS are students who have applied and seriously considered Northwestern, including myself. It’s so often underrated by the general populace due to its midwestern location, but the two schools being similar in so many ways from social life, non-ivy reputation, sports scene, proximity to large city, I’d say they draw a smilar group of applicants, at least for students who didn’t consider Stanford merely for its brand name but for what it actually is.</p>
<p>Cornell and Stanford, not so much.</p>
<p>My two cents.</p>
<p>it has nothing to do with living in california. i have a lot of respect for northwestern. i simply humbly disagree with you in terms of comparing stanford to northwestern. some individuals may apply or consider both, but stanford is on a different level in my opinion. Also, northwestern is an equal to cornell, deffiantly not above it. while northwestern and stanford may both be non-ivy’s, stanfords reputation nationally far exceeds northwesterns and also exceeds all ivy’s in my opinion except harvard, yale and princeton. and many would argue it is deffiantly their equivalent.</p>
<p>I don’t mean for it to be offensive, but it has more to do with you living in California than you’d think. Stereotypes and perceptions have very much to do with where we come from.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I wholeheartedly agree with you on the fact that the national reputation of Stanford far exceeds Northwestern’s; hardly anyone would argue with you on that one. But, by no means, does reputation equate to academic quality. You stated:
I respect what you believe, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but I have no intentions of trying to put my school on false pedestal by agreeing with you. While I love Stanford, I’m not going to claim without concrete substance that it is on a whole different level with a school like Northwestern or even Cornell, for that matter.</p>
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And this is precisely what I have a problem with the general populace and consider somewhat of an ignorant point of view. Read over what you said, you constantly mention Stanford’s reputation, I’m not talking about reputation. I’m talking about the how close the two schools stand in terms of what kind of undergraduate experience they can offer.</p>
<p>I’ve considered schools like Stanford, Northwestern, and Rice because they fit the undergraduate experience I wanted to be part of. The Ivy League screamed “too preppy” for me, but I wanted strong academics, strong student body, variety of programs, somewhat of a laid-back social atmosphere and access to a large city. Looks to me like Northwestern and Rice both fit the profile. An applicant who decided to apply to Stanford for what the school actually is, not just the name brand, would’ve have looked at both schools if they didn’t mind living in the Midwest or the South. Not everyone applies to HYPS all at the same time :)</p>
<p>Again my two cents.</p>
<p>By the way, this is completely off topic, but you keep on spelling definitely, “deffiantly.” Or maybe you mean to say defiantly. Either way, it’s wrong.</p>
<p>Per OP request, back to original question:
1)There doesn’t seem to be a heck of a lot difference in admissions chances between the two schools.
2) As for chances, who knows. My daughter had similar SATs (higher math though), better grades and much better SAT IIs; was told she had a good shot, but no lock, at Northwestern, either ED or RD. But her application was a lot more than these stats; she had a full-page perfomance resume, for starters. My recollection is Cornell Arts & Sciences has decently high math SAT averages.</p>
<p>So maybe you’re, at best, a “high match” in an environment where only 33% of “high matches” are admitted.</p>
<p>Maybe you can just submit your ACT?</p>
<p>Having recently moved from the midwest back east, what I noticed is that geographic proximity plays a huge role. At my D1s high school, Northwestern was a hugely popular choice among very good students, but few people applied to Cornell. As far as I could tell, the kids who were going to Northwestern were pretty much the same kids who would have been headed to Cornell if they were in the East. </p>
<p>It was practically the reverse when I was growing up in New York. Cornell was a hugely popular school for competitive applicants there.The appeal of Northwestern tended to be more towards one of its specialized schools; theater, communications. For Arts & Sciences or engineering there were closer choices that were more frequently elected.</p>
<p>The current geographic distribution of entering classes shows the following:</p>
<pre><code> Northwestern Cornell
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<p>NY + Middle Atlantic + New England 22% 66%
Midwest 42% 8%</p>
<p>The differences in the relative % probably reflects regional economics & habits. Easterners tend to go out of region for college to a greater extent than others, generally. By comparison, Midwest students are 10% at Duke.</p>
<p>At Cornell, my recollection is that the endowed colleges (eg Arts & Sciences & engineering) had broader geographic distribution than the other schools though.</p>
<p>“well if we’re offering opinions, Northwestern is so much better than Cornell.
unless you like the wilderness, a huge school, and competitive classmates”
Not in the least, lets get real. </p>
<p>"“northwestern likely shares very many cross-admits with HYPS in comparison to cornell”
hahaha!!!</p>
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<p>wow that’s a pretty skewed distribution</p>
<p>Looking at the (middle 50%) SAT range is not always the best way to gauge the strength of a student body. With regard to %s of over 700 scorers in SAT verbal/math scores, NU is significantly closer to Penn and has a higher % of over 30 ACT scorers.</p>
<p>NU -
SAT verbal scores over 700 53%, SAT math scores over 700 63%, ACT scores over 30 69%</p>
<p>Cornell -
SAT verbal scores over 700 38%, SAT math scores over 700 59%, ACT scores over 30 56%</p>
<p>Penn -
SAT verbal scores over 700 54%, SAT math scores over 700 69%, ACT scores over 30 66%</p>
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<p>Geographic preference is one reason why Mid-west schools tend to have students with higher ACT scores than schools in the NE.</p>