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<p>I can say that there have been errors in applying my Ds awards most years at school- these are merit awards which were sometimes left off, so one should always check and double check the awards to make sure they are done properly.</p>

<p>It would also be smart to not spend anything without making sure it is really yours, I don’t know how the colleges work in terms of fixing things later, but my DH had some SS benefits whilst in college based on his father’s disability. He also had an on campus job- many years later (3-4 AFTER graduation) when we were married, SS asked him to repay that money since what he earned in his job should have disqualified him from the benefit :eek: This showed up a month after we bought our first home and it was lousy timing</p>

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<p>In this case, it is all about tuition…period…and yes I understand about books etc, but that is very different from some sort of refund based on instate/OOS reciprical agreements when student is already instate and paid nothing anyway</p>

<p>kluge, how do you get a refund if you have paid nothing? And if you are told it will be instate tuition…period…where does the “refund” come from? the student never paid and was never out of state, and the scholarship itself ALSO makes the student instate elligible</p>

<p>here is the deal…this was an INSTATE student from the get go…so the OOS should not even apply…the reason the student thinks they might deserve a refund is because they were “given” a break on tuition- OOS to Instate- and that instate was covered by scholarship (me thinks)…so no $ have been paid by student to school, program clearly states (per OP) that is is tuition based only…</p>

<p>seems seems there are two issues here- the OOS reciprical agreement (which doesn’t even apply as this was an instate student and if it did, it converts the student to instate- so the OOS tution is irrelevent by the reciprical agreement they signed) and some sort of scholarship to cover instate tuition…the OP wants that tuition to cover OOS tuition and thus thought they deserved the difference- wanted it both ways…to be considered OOS (that that is no longer in play as they are instate by virtue of the agreement and being instate already) but at the same time instate so they can get a 'refund"</p>

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<h2>CGM - My understanding is the OP and his/her child physically reside OOS.</h2>

<h2>per younghoss: “to janieb- he lives oos, but is entitled to pay only in-state tuition at that school because of a reciprocal agreement”</h2>

<p>The student was OOS, entitled to instate tuition under the reciprocal agreement, and rec’d an OOS scholarship letter. Sounds like a foul up on the part of the school.</p>

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<p>This doesn’t relate specifically to the OOS issue, but, our experience was that D was offered an athletic scholarship towards the end of the first semester of junior year. COA = $41,000-ish; academic scholarships covered about 80% of it already. D didn’t wish to decline her academic scholarships, thinking that they were more prestigious. The coach didn’t want to “split up” between multiple students the athletic scholarship because she was awarding it on performance merit. So D ended up with all of the scholarships, everything covered, including books, and she also a refund of several thousands of dollars. Obviously, this triggered tax obligations…</p>

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The first thing they should have taught you in law school is not to attempt to interpret a contract without seeing the actual wording of the contract itself, all supporting documents, and any other information available that can indicate whether the parties have had a “meeting of the minds” and if so, on what terms. </p>

<p>To answer how a scholarship could be worded so that a refund might be due? Suppose the scholarship had been for a dollar amount, say, $10,000, which is the amount of OOS tuition. OP could have considered that and called it an “OOS tuition scholarship.” However, the instate tuition was only $5000 (using simple numbers that bear no relationship to reality). In this case, because the scholarship had a precise dollar amount, the student would be entitled to the extra $5000 for other expenses, which could include room, board, books, fees, etc. </p>

<p>Yes, I know, cgm - “but that’s not what the OP said.” Could have been shorthand, could have been misunderstanding, need not be nefarious.</p>

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<p>I googled college tuition reciprocity agreement . One of the first things to pop up was a contract between Kentucky and Ohio <a href=“http://cpe.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/2ED6C680-03A3-4C8D-AE1A-609D1D1B5B94/0/20021104_AgendaItem10.pdf[/url]”>http://cpe.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/2ED6C680-03A3-4C8D-AE1A-609D1D1B5B94/0/20021104_AgendaItem10.pdf&lt;/a&gt; It is somewhat dated (a few yrs old) but clearly explains how a reciprocity agreement works, and why it exists. In this particular case, residents of certain Kentucky counties were eligible to attend certain Ohio schools at the Ohio tuition rate. The contract is pretty self explanatory.</p>

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<p>The Western Undergraduate Exchange sponsored by WICHE is a set of agreements among several western states, with similar provisions. So a California resident can attend the University of Hawaii or the University of Idaho paying in-state tuition. (Hawaiians can’t attend UC at in-state rates, however; the reciprocity is limited to certain colleges, which include some of the CSU’s in California.) It’s a pretty good deal for a kid who wants to go out of state to study without breaking the bank, but not a lot of people seem to know about it.</p>

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<p>There is a similar program in the southeast (except we dont have cool, exotic college locations to consider like kluge :slight_smile: ) called the Academic Common Market [Academic</a> Common Market/Regional Contract Program](<a href=“http://www.sreb.org/programs/acm/acmindex.asp]Academic”>http://www.sreb.org/programs/acm/acmindex.asp) As I described way earlier in this thread, it allows a student to attend a school in any of the participating states, paying the in-state tuition, if the student’s major isn’t available in their home state schools. Here’s how it works:

As I mentioned earlier as well, there were some abuses going on, with students going to schools selecting some obscure major and then changing their major when they arrive. They’ve tightened up the rules, and less abuse is occurring. Its a great program.</p>

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<p>Wisconsin and Minnesota have one, too, I believe.</p>

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<p>Yep and it’s actually it’s cheaper for a Wisc resident to attend U of MN-TC than it is for a MN resident since Wisc students are charged their own instate tuition rate and MN tuition is higher than Wisc. tuition ;)</p>

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<p>Try this thread for other reciprocity agreements</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/425161-your-semi-annual-academic-common-market-thread-state-tuition.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/425161-your-semi-annual-academic-common-market-thread-state-tuition.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>These are programs not enough student take advantage of simply because of lack of knowledge as to how they work. If you know of a program not listed on the above referenced thread, it would probably serve a very useful purpose if you added it.</p>

<p>My favorite is from the University of Arkansas. The Bolivian one is really interesting - </p>

<p>University of Arkansas has reciprocity agreements for Bolivian citizens who maintain dual U.S. citizenship and for residents of Texarkana and Bowie County TX.</p>

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<p>The reciprocity agreements are quite clear. I was referring to the terms of the scholarship and exactly what was offered. Without knowing those terms, we’re merely speculating.</p>

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<p>calmom’s post (#242) explains it well

These are separate issues. The cost to attend school (tuition) is one issue, the scholarship award amount is another. One is handled by the business/bursars office, one by the financial aid office. The financial aid office sends its scholarship amount to the Bursars office so that it is posted to the student’s account. What is not entirely clear, and apparently remains the subject of constant masticating is whether (1) the dollar amount of the scholarship award is equal to the in-or out-of-state tution amount and (2)whether it is limited to paying tuition only or not. What else is there left to say?? (Rhetorical question!!!) The OP said he’d get back to us when itis resolved. Please, the funeral for this thread should be scheduled for 9 pm. Let it die in peace. This is a slow, torturous, painful death.</p>

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<p>Some people feel that the OP had a right to cold hard cash…and defended that to the nth degree, and called me names, basically called me stupid, so yeah, if I want an answer, i can ask for one…ignore it if you want…and since those that thought the OP had a case and decided it was better to make fun of me and my posts than to actually discuss the topic, well I should’ve been surprised.</p>

<p>Many were giving advice to take the money, some were saying go ahead and ask for more, some were saying, hey if they made a mistake, so what…take it…now was that the best advice, or should someone have said, gee, maybe think about the consquences of doing that </p>

<p>and perhaps think about the circumstances if they actually even made sense before advising someone to do something could in fact come back t bite them</p>

<p>factor in the OOS scholarship given to an admitted instate student, who is now asking for phantom money and threatening lawyer talk, not everyone should go, hey, smart idea…which was how some posters were leaning…and what in the world is wrong with discussing this further, as still some posters think there is money there</p>

<p>so go ahead, you can ignore me, chastise me, whatever, but better the OP take a second look then make a big mistake</p>

<p>ps- law is also about common sense, not making things worse, etc…and sometimes, it take someone to step up and NOT AGREE with the prevailing force…and not get bullied away</p>

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<p>Not to perpetuate this thing…but when I look back at the original post, I get that the OP is asking for advice or personal experiences more than a lesson in morality and ethics.</p>

<p>The OP is working to get to the bottom of the situation, which is wise. Imho, no need to worry further about it. As jym said, this topic has been discussed to death.</p>

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