<p>but you see, the OP received the OOS tuition scholarship…though they were instate, a scholarship that was for OOS students, in essence making the OP an OOS family, not instate…if they were instate, they would not qualify for the scholarship…but hey, take what you can get right? no need for any ethics or morality I guess</p>
<p>when I was little, I was going to a swimming pool, the lady accidently gave me back too much change, an extra quarter…did I keep the quarter, no, I gave it back…I would have felt awful stealing that money…</p>
<p>dbwes–
Also well put. Bravo.</p>
<p>cgm-
Please-- give us 10 more examples. I don’t think we get where you stand on this.</p>
<p>^^^^ Lol!!!</p>
<p>^^^^^^^ha!</p>
<p>OK…to the OP…is this what you MEANT to write in your original post:</p>
<p>“My child just received a $2500 refund from his university for overpayment of tuition for this last semester. We think this is the difference between his out of state tuition scholarship and the instate fees he is supposed to be paying. This is my child’s fifth semester in college and the first time the school has refunded money. Do you think I should contact them about a possible refund for the previous FOUR semesters?”</p>
<p>Ok…if that is the question…I have a few others. Where we live, the difference in OOS and instate tuition FAR exceeds $2500 per semester. Second (as I put forth above somewhere), the previous four semesters are in fiscal years when the books are probably closed. If you had wanted to appeal this, it would have needed to be done during that academic year. NOW…having said all that…since you received a $2500 check for this semester, why don’t you call the bursars office and inquire whether you are able to get a refund for the previous four semesters. They will tell you.</p>
<p>CGM said
“but you see, the OP received the OOS tuition scholarship…though they were instate, a scholarship that was for OOS students, in essence making the OP an OOS family, not instate”</p>
<p>They ARE NOT instate and have made that clear. They are from a neighboring state but qualified for instate tuition under a reciprocal agreement. This student is OOS for everything and receives a tuition reduction to instate tuition under the agreement.</p>
<p>“now, I decide that I want to have the difference, back in cash between the two dollar amounts, because the school is actually “only covering” the instate costs, not the OOS”</p>
<p>This is exactly what the bursars office used as an explanation. Not the OP but the Bursars office. They did not come up with this until the Bursars Office told them this was the case.</p>
<p>I understand that this is “suppose” to be a tuition only scholarship. I also know that universities have found ways to “sweeten the pot” for students they want but still trying to publicly appear as if they are following their stated guidelines. The explanation by the bursars office could be interpreted to fall into this category. That was not a form letter or a standard explanation (Guidelines to Bursars personel - if student or parent asks this, answer with this. If they ask this other thing, answer with this.) So, this explanation was thought out. </p>
<p>Because my kids went to a relatively low income high school I have known students who were highly sought after who had offers that would give them more than would normally would be given but they received the extra money through “creative” means. I have also known a student who was given this type of “creative” inducement but then who had to fight for it once on campus because it really was not suppose to be done that way. Ultimately, the University found a way to make good on their promise. More often than not, these came from State Universities because they had far more restrictions and audits than private universities and they still wanted to be competitive for these kids. Generally, it was easier to do these “creative scholarship offers” with out of state students because of the difference in tuition rates. </p>
<p>Now, while this may feel grossly unfair to taxpayers, Universities, Deans, Scholarship Committes and coaches actually do these things. Happens all the time in the public and private sector, not just Universitites. And while taxpayers may feel justifiably angered by this, how is that the fault of the students who get these offers?</p>
<p>Hmmm. Suppose the school realized they actually made a mistake and should not have given a refund. Would that mean that the OP would have to give the money back?</p>
<p>nunof-
You’ve got some catching up to do. Lots to read in this thread. I believe most people agree that if, <em>if</em> the school says “oops, that was an error, you weren’t supposed to get that refund”, then yes, I believe we agree that the money should be refunded (and I suspect the op’s s wouldn’t get that sheepskin until all accounts are rectified, so ya can’t win in this game). But keepsmesane does a simply exquisite job of explaining the intricacies of the tuition management game, and thumber did a great job of rewording the OP’s question in a way that wouldnt get so may people’s knickers in a knot. </p>
<p>And dontw8up-
You are welcome. I love your sn, by the way.</p>
<p>Back to the original post: Thanks. I’ve needed a good laugh all day. Woo-hee, that’s a funny one! </p>
<p>(But you know it’s not nice to ■■■■■, right?)</p>
<p>Hey, dntw8up,
You changed your “thank you jym” post (#169) so now my “your welcome” doesnt’ make sense. Well, I guess it fits right in with some of the other posts, eh? I guess making sense isn’t always a prerequisite 
(not directed at anyone–please, no snarky retorts)</p>
<p>they qualify for instate…HOW do they do that? Either THROUGH the scholarship or by being in state</p>
<p>is there some other alternative universe between instate and OOS that melds the two, kind of like the black/white star trek faces, that I don’t know about?</p>
<p>and go ahead make fun…its okay, if that is the best you can do…I believe in acting ethically, some don’t what can I say to that</p>
<p>seems the OP likes to talk about business, etc…and don’t forget the OP has paid no tuition at all…but wants cold hard cash for attending the school, upwards of 20,000 dollars…seems fair to some I guess</p>
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<p>WashDad, I agree. It’s a hoot, alright. I don’t know which is more absurd, the original post or the follow-up rationalizations. You gotta love it, though. :)</p>
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<p>False. There are other ways. The Western Undergraduate Exchange program is an example. OP’s explanation is hardly fantastic.</p>
<p>Would you think this was so funny if it were about, say, the Robertson, Ja… Ja… err… (cough, cough) Janieblue?</p>
<p>They qualify for instate tuition by a reciprocal agreement, not this scholarship. The reciprocal agreement is separate from any scholarship. It offers a tuition reduction to instate rates for any number of reasons, depending on the state and the university. In some cases, certain states have a consortium agreement for programs they don’t offer. Students move between the states at instate rates. Other times, it offers this tuition reduction for all neighboring states and then your states’ citizens can also go to the neighboring states universitites at instate rate. Other times there are SAT, GPA restrictions, etc. This would be in place regardless of any scholarship.</p>
<p>This should not be confused with a tuition reduction many state universities have that says if you get a scholarship of XXX amount, you get instate rates. That reduction WOULD BE tied to the scholarship. </p>
<p>This scholarship is not dependent on the tuition reduction and the instate rate is not dependent on the scholarship. They are two different situations and each can stand alone for the same student.</p>
<p>Hey jym,</p>
<p>I wanted to add “ha” to the post but ended up adding “ha” and deleting “thanks jym.” When I noticed and tried to fix my error, the deadline to change the post had passed. Sometimes real life distracts me; I apologize for the weirdness!</p>
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<p>The scholarship does not cover room and board or books, as has been stated. OP has still paid quite a lot and $20,000 is only a partial refund for 4 years of college costs.</p>
<p>Thanks for the explanation, dntw8up. At least some things are making sense here.
As for others, I guess
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its not like the school hands you $ and you turn around and hand it back…they just DONT CHARGE YOU!!! </p>
<p>To even consider doing anything like that would make me want to take away the scholarship…to be very honest and to look at a way I could do it</p>
<p>and:
why ease up, they are looking for something they never earned or deserve and looks like they are trying to in essense steal…if i saw that coming across my desk in the financial aid office, i would laugh and then make darn sure that student is doing everything required by that scholarship, nothing less<a href=“posts%20#%208%20and%2026%20in%20this%20thread”>/quote</a> are examples of ways of acting ethically? :rolleyes:</p>