@WineLover My son also chose not to apply to any ivies for the very same reasons. He had attended a very competitive private high school, after Catholic middle school, where ivies (and everything necessary to get there) were the holy grail. He very much wanted a school with a more supportive community, without sacrificing academic opportunities, where he could feel comfortable (“at home”) and develop along academic and personal dimensions. He describes the students as brilliant yet humble, supportive and collaborative, and the whole environment built around family and acceptance. And he loves the sports too (school spirit!). Interestingly, while my son did not quite have the test scores of your son (34), he was similarly rejected from UVA in the EA round. Go figure?!
The Notre Dame College of Engineering Welcomes Early Admitted Engineering Intents:
OMG. My son feels the exact same way. UND is a long way from home but he is willing and hoping for all of those reasons that you stated. Also steered clear of Ivies and the “pressure cooker” atmospheres there.
“ND administration and the actual students do a great job of turning EA admits into ND enrollees. When my son was accepted EA last year, he got personal emails from the local alumni club setting up a reception for the EA admits.”
At ND admissions, coffee is for closers!!!
The efforts are very sincere and seem to be very effective (look at the yield numbers). But ND works its early admits like no other school my kids have had contact with. Search these threads for the refrigerator magnet discussion to see what I’m talking about.
I honestly can’t imagine anyone saying NO to ND…we are still hoping his deferment turns into an offer…which he will accept in a heartbeat!!! Just love the way they do things.
@brownpoodle and @winelover - I will echo @northwesty , the efforts to get admitted students to say ‘Yes’ is intense and sincere. My son is a first year right now. ND was a late addition to his list. We are from CA and thought ‘that’s a long way from home.’ We went to one of the admitted students weekends. What a great experience! Last year I referred to it as the “ND charm offensive”. In a good way. Their slogan is “Welcome home” and they embody that ethos. We talked with random students. Even these students did a great job of promoting the school. This year I have been very impressed with the Residential Life. The Hall becomes a family. Some are likely better than others, but it has a very different feel than my son’s dorm at Arizona State. It is a great place to be.
I will echo these comments about the sincerity of the ND effort to welcome potential students into the “ND family”. We are also from CA, and did not have much first hand interaction with ND (other than a 2 hour visit) until our son was admitted last year EA (my comments on his EA admitted students visit are above). “Welcome Home” is real, not a contrived slogan or marketing effort. ND’s unique residential hall structure is absolutely the best in terms of integrating Freshmen into the broader world of ND. ND is a truly special place. I walk around that campus on visits and feel the “goodness” that emanates from the atmosphere and the students who look you in the eye as you walk by and say “hello”. ND reached out with respect, tolerance and (may I say it) love to our family…no pressure at all. Our son is now “home” and loving every minute of it. Best college in the country, everything considered, in my view as a parent. But perhaps, not for all. Too bad for them…
Has anyone been invited to Reilly Spring Visit? I read about it on last year’s thread. I don’t know if it’s offered this year. If you know anything about it, please post here.
@CAMother The Reilly invites have already gone out. My S19 is on an admitted students group chat and several of the students indicated they already received the invite to attend this year. I believe it only goes out to the very top applicants, but not necessarily all top applicants. Many who were invited to Glynn Scholars and to apply for merit have not been invited to the Reilly visit and vice versa.
So we didn’t get the CSS done. Miscommunication in divorce. Can he still get in?? Did I ruin his chances?? I’m so upset right now.
@PopUpZone1921 You will need to call the Office of Financial Aid on Monday in order to find out what can be done. Some colleges/universities use CSS Profile & IDOC dates as hard deadlines, others show some flexibility. Only way to find out for Notre Dame and any other CSS Profile schools is to speak to them individually. Best of luck and success!
PS: and, of course, please make sure to submit CSS Profile asap, i.e. over the weekend, before speaking with them on Monday.
PPS: Is your DS a REA or RD applicant: “First-year applicants applying Restrictive Early Action should complete the CSS Profile and FAFSA by November 15 and submit IDOC information by December 15. First-year applicants applying Regular Decision should complete the CSS Profile and FAFSA by February 15 and submit IDOC information by March 1.” Please post on RD threat if the latter to avoid any confusion. Thanks!
But does this hurt his chances for admission? He was deferred REA?? I feel like the worst mother at the moment ;(
@PopUpZone1921 Please don’t beat yourself up. Financial Aid deadlines are not correlated with Admission decisions and your son therefore has no negative impact on being admitted in Regular Decision. As a REA applicant he should have submitted FAFSA, CSS Profile and IDOC earlier in any event. However, it is now very important to speak with the Office of Financial Aid (not the Office of Undergraduate Admissions) asap, in order to sort this out and to make Notre Dame affordable, if he should be admitted! Again, best of luck and success to you and your son!
@PopUpZone1921 Call FA on Monday morning (I don’t think the school takes President’s Day off) and tell them of the error. I highly doubt they’ll be cutthroat about it.
We are not likely to get need based aid. His FASFA is done. CSS just not totally complete
What is IDOC???
@PopUpZone1921 IDOC is a an additionally required step, following CSS Profile submission, to submit tax and any other documentation, as required by the university. If you do not expect to receive FA and will be full pay, there is no need to complete FA requirements. Nevertheless, even in this case, please make sure to have your DS speak with the Office of Financial Aid and let them know that he won’t be applying for institutional aid through CSS/IDOC and would like to proceed with his application for admission without ND institutional FA support (he still would be eligible for Federal Loans, subject to already submitted FAFSA EFC limits). In this case, please make absolutely sure however that full pay is the way to go for your son at Notre Dame over the coming 4 years.
@hpcsa So if we do not expect to qualify for FA, there is no need to fill out fafsa or css right?
Let’s hope not. Lol. I’m still
Mad at myself and would prefer that I didn’t miss the deadline. It’s being completed now
I knew our daughter would not receive a nickel so she did not fill out a thing.