<p>I’ve made my point. There’s no reason to backtrack now and question whether the R-rankings are even reputation-based (esp. after you’ve made this discussion personal). If you want to read about the methodology and how the R-rankings are implicitly a reputation ranking, see this:</p>
<p>Can anyone add the percentage of PhD programs in the top 10 and the number of PhD programs in the top 10 for Northwestern and Johns Hopkins? The lists I’m referring to were in post #11 and post #59.</p>
<p>I was going to reply earlier but forgot. I got the same answer for Northwestern and Hopkins using the R rankings. Using the S rankings, Hopkins’ percentage goes up to 46.2% while Northwestern is unchanged.</p>
<p>I haven’t done anything with the other schools on your later list.</p>
<p>I think, to make this data more useful, the universities need to be broken into those with broad, moderate, and narrow ranges of programs as follows. Otherwise, you’re comparing Cal Tech with 24 programs to Michigan with 65 programs. Maintaining 100% of programs in the top 10 is not as difficult with 24 programs as it is with 65 programs. Here are the results:</p>
<p>2011 NATIONAL RESEARCH COUNCIL (NRC) RANKINGS</p>
<p>PERCENTAGE OF PhD PROGRAMS IN THE TOP 10:</p>
<p>BROAD RANGE OF PROGRAMS
Stanford University 95.7%
Harvard University 94.2%
University of California Berkeley (California, Cal) 94.0%
Yale University 77.6%
University of Michigan 70.7%
Columbia University 70.2%
University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) 67.8%
University of Texas 61.5%
University of North Carolina (UNC) 56.9%
Cornell University 55.7%
University of Illinois (UIUC) 53.4%
University of Wisconsin 52.6%
University of Maryland 43.6%
University of Washington 39.0%
Johns Hopkins University 36.5%
Pennsylvania State University 35.4%
Ohio State University 31.3%
University of Minnesota 27.5%
University of Southern California (USC) 19.6%
University of Florida 10.0%</p>
<p>MODERATE RANGE OF PROGRAMS
Princeton University 91.4%
University of Pennsylvania (Penn) 78%
University of Chicago 64.9%
New York University (NYU) 56.8%
Duke University 56.4%
Brown University 52.9%
Northwestern University 51.6%
Washington University in St. Louis (WUSTL) 31.4%
University of Virginia (UVA) 26.0%
Vanderbilt University 22.6%</p>
<p>NARROW RANGE OF PROGRAMS
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) 100%
California Institute of Technology (Cal Tech) 95.8%
University of California San Francisco (UCSF) 70.0%
University of California San Diego (UCSD) 64.0%
Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia Tech) 50.0%
Carnegie Mellon University 31.8%
Dartmouth University 18.0%</p>
<p>NUMBER OF PhD PROGRAMS IN THE TOP 10:</p>
<p>BROAD RANGE OF PROGRAMS
University of California Berkeley (California, Cal) - 48
Harvard University - 47
Stanford University - 40
University of Michigan - 40
University of Wisconsin - 36
University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) 35
Yale University - 34
Cornell University 31
University of Texas 29
University of Illinois (UIUC) 26
University of North Carolina (UNC) - 26
Columbia University 25
Pennsylvania State University (Penn State) 23
University of Washington 23
Ohio State University - 20
University of Maryland 20
Johns Hopkins University 19
University of Minnesota 18
University of Florida 9
University of Southern California (USC) 9</p>
<p>MODERATE RANGE OF PROGRAMS
Princeton University - 29
University of Pennsylvania (Penn) 28
University of Chicago 24
New York University (NYU) - 21
Duke University - 17
Northwestern University 16
Brown University - 12
Washington University in St. Louis (WUSTL) 11
University of Virginia (UVA) 7
Vanderbilt University 7</p>
<p>NARROW RANGE OF PROGRAMS
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) 27
California Institute of Technology (Cal Tech) 20
University of California San Diego (UCSD) - 13
Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia Tech) 10
Carnegie Mellon University 7
University of California San Francisco (UCSF) 7
Dartmouth University - 2</p>
<p>I determined the breadth of program categories by the total number of PhD programs offered. Here are the categories with the total number of PhD programs offered by each university:</p>
<p>BROAD RANGE OF PROGRAMS
University of Wisconsin - 78
University of Minnesota - 69
University of Michigan - 65
Pennsylvania State University (Penn State) - 65
Ohio State University - 64
Cornell University - 61
University of Florida - 60
University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) - 59
University of Washington - 59
University of Illinois (UIUC) - 58
University of Maryland - 5
University of California Berkeley (California, Cal) - 52
Harvard University - 52
University of Texas - 52
Johns Hopkins University - 52
University of North Carolina (UNC) - 51
Yale University - 49
Stanford University - 47
Columbia University - 47
University of Southern California (USC) - 46</p>
<p>MODERATE RANGE OF PROGRAMS<br>
University of Pennsylvania (Penn) - 41
Duke University - 39
University of Virginia (UVA) - 38
University of Chicago - 37
New York University (NYU) - 37
Princeton University - 35
Washington University in St. Louis (WUSTL) - 35
Brown University - 34
Northwestern University - 31
Vanderbilt University - 31</p>
<p>NARROW RANGE OF PROGRAMS<br>
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) - 27
University of California San Diego (UCSD) - 25
California Institute of Technology (Cal Tech) - 24
Carnegie Mellon University - 22
Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia Tech) - 20
Dartmouth University - 11
University of California San Francisco (UCSF) - 10</p>
<p>makenzi, that seems like the most logical way to group them that I’ve seen so far. The arbitrary divisions are debatable but make sense as you have them. A small possible shortcoming is the inclusion of agricultural sciences, but I still agree with the result.</p>
<p>Takeaway point: Stanford, Berkeley, and Harvard still dominate as the top 3 for breadth and depth, though in my mind Harvard is still a notch below Stanford and Berkeley because it just can’t compare in engineering. And MIT still dominates in depth within its more narrower breadth. </p>
<p>So in the end, the chart board results from these new NRC rankings are largely the same as the 1995 ones, at least for the elite schools. (Perhaps all the complaints about the 2010 rankings using 2005 data are largely inconsequential, given that there wasn’t much change there from 15 years ago, much less 5 years ago. In other words: overall graduate programs change very slowly, perhaps more so at the top.)</p>
And MIT still dominates in depth within its more narrower breadth. </p>