Sorry, I shouldve clarified, which school within NYU is a guranteed transfer to CAS?
Liberal studies, like I said.
This is my concern. My hypothesis is you likely are picking 5 of the top 8 that get most applied to. And not using all the slots. Your choice but I see that as a mistake.
Kids go to medical schools from everywhere, top schools. But many also go from in-state schools.
If you don’t look at the Denisons and the Macs, etc. and I don’t know how many QB they admit, but assuming less try to match with them, well - you might have better odds.
You don’t have money for college if you are doing QB.
How will you afford Rutgers? You may get free tuition but not room and board.
Depending on your stats you might find free elsewhere.
What is your GPA and test score?
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I live right by Rutgers! I have a 4.1 GPA and haven’t taken my SAT yet (will do it in the spring)
Yes, there is. There is not much difference between ED1 and ED2 admit rates at NYU historically. Both are significantly better than RD, and a lot less impacted by hooked applicants like at some other selective schools where legacy and athletes are a big part of the ED admit pool.
4.1 with weighting or unweighting.
Keep up the good work.
But seriously consider expanding your list.
What stinks about the Rutgers option is you have to live at home. If you have a chance to go away to college, that’s a part of the education.
For smaller, I think there might be an option to go to Drew tuition free too. Not sure about distance for you.
Good luck.
@DaBears1 Could you please do a chance me/match me thread? We know absolutely nothing about your potential for either of these colleges. The chance me/match me template is very complete. Please complete it all. You will get much better answers with complete information.
At this point, I can’t give you any opinion about these two colleges for you…because I have no idea if you actually have the potential to be accepted.
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Rather than ask which school is “better” for premed, I suggest you do a chance me thread. This will provide us with the information we need to help you with your list of schools.
I agree that you should rank as many schools as Questbridge allows- it doesn’t look like that is your current plan.
If you do a chance me thread we can help find schools that might be affordable, which should be your priority.
It is too early for you to be asking about NYU vs Swarthmore for premed. FYI- you can get to medical school school from almost any school in the country.
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I can complete it today after school. Only thing missing would be my SAT score which will be known in May
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Did you take a PSAT test this past fall? If so, what was that score?
Do you meet the income and asset qualifications for Questbridge? Did you intend on applying for QB College Prep Scholars?
If you end up doing Questbridge in the fall, I would highly encourage you to rank 15 schools. I tend to encourage students with pre-med intentions to take a serious look at the LACs, IMO those can be better pre-med environments for many students. You want to choose a school where you can be at the top of your class (or certainly the top 10%.) Is that NYU or Swat for you?
If you are going to be strategic, besides trying to optimize your NYU strategy, you should also be optimizing your general application strategy.
This means using all the Questbridge slots, and also NOT only picking the most selective schools! Include some slightly easier admits. They will all be good for medical school.
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i will leave it to the other experts hear to guide you through the QB decision-making.
For some of the premed questions, i do have some opinions:
- Prestige- in my opinion, Swat is slightly more prestigious than NYU in a vacuum. BUT that is just MY opinion and you don’t live in a vacuum - you will have different classes, experiences, ECs, etc. during college all of which will blur any prestige advantage you perceive (if there is one at all). so in reality, don’t make your decision based on this unless you value what your friends think more than what you think.
- Logistically, Swat is at least 30 to 45 mins to 1hr away from Downtown Philly by train not accounting for the walking time. IF you were to do research/clinical experience there, it is not just a hop/skip/jump to those places like UPenn/ThomasJeff/etc. i suppose there are closer community hospitals but your research experience would more likely be done at Swat with undergrad professors so if you really want research hospital access, NYU is the better option (although NYU medical center may not be next to the undergrad campus either so there may be some logistics there as well).
OP: Review the list of the 55 college partners in the Questbridge program in order to expand your list of target schools:
For example: If you are attracted to NYU’s urban campus, then consider Boston University (BU).
Have you considered Rice University ?
FYI there are a few NYU Langone hospitals around the city including near campus and my understanding is that they all form part of the research network, but that’s something for OP to research too. Public transport is easy in Manhattan.
The importance of research (unless applying down the road to MD/PhD programs) is really overblown. Yes, some successful premeds have worked alongside PI’s, doctoral students, post doc’s in labs during undergrad. And some have not. They’ve worked in homeless shelters, hospices, group homes for the disabled, etc. to get exposure to vulnerable human beings. And that’s good, too.
There are so many other important considerations in choosing an undergrad college- the time it takes on public transportation to get to a teaching hospital isn’t even in the top 5.
OP- do not waste your Questbridge opportunity by applying in such a narrow fashion. Research all the possibilities. NYU and Swarthmore are great- and another dozen colleges will be just as great for you.
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Have to agree with everyone here who is saying to apply broadly to Questbridge. Any of their partner colleges will prepare you for medical school and having zero debt should be the goal.
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although i agree research is not absolutely necessary for medical school admission in general, the OP specifically inquired about “top-tier medical schools”. i would say that research does warrant greater consideration in the admission process for those schools which are typically research/academic-focused institutions. Not all research experiences are created equal, but research, in general, implies the applicant will have greater insight into interpreting medical evidence, both its impact and limitations, since most medical evidence is predicated on research.
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This is a lovely sentiment- but totally irrelevant to the OP who is a HS kid. WAY too early to be calculating the odds of getting into Yale Med vs. Random Caribbean Med school. No data AT ALL available right now as to whether OP would be a credible candidate for ANY med school, let alone a research oriented one.
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For Pete’s sake, you are low income and applying through Questbridge, but want to be picky about your school?
Before you bash me, my kid was a Questbridge Match back in 2008. She, and I would have been grateful for whichever school was taking a chance on her. She applied to as many as QB would at the time, I think it was 12.Of course she had her favorites, but the opportunity to go to ANY of the partner schools was exciting. She was matched to her number one school. Majored in Classics while fulfilling her med school pre reqs. Continued to get into medschool, residency, fellowship and just now at age 35 her “real” first paying job. Guess what? I’m confident she could have done the same thing through ANY of the QB partner schools. It’s up to you, the student, not the school whether you reach your goals or not. Good luck.
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My two cents is by far the most important consideration for pre-meds, or really anyone picking a college, is picking a place where you really think you would thrive. Academically, socially, physically, emotionally, ethically, and so on.
That is because kids who are thriving in general in college are going to typically find it a lot easier to do all the various things they need to be doing to have a very competitive med school application, or any sort of next step application really. Conversely, if you are not thriving in some important ways in college, whatever institutional characteristics it might have that people call “good for premed” are unlikely to make up for your lack of thriving.
OK, so NYU and Swarthmore are both excellent institutions overall, but also, in my view, quite different in a variety of notable ways. And personally, I don’t think it is hard to imagine some kids thriving at one and not the other, and that depending on the kid it could work either way.
So I would urge you to think more holistically, and try as best as possible to be true to yourself. What sort of college would be most exciting to you overall? What sort of college is most likely to be a place where you would truly thrive? Maybe NYU is a better bet. Maybe Swarthmore. Maybe neither, maybe some third option would be your best bet. But that, to me, is how you should be thinking about this, for med school purposes and really in general.
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