<p>I’ve only read the first page, so maybe this has been pointed out, but this line by Obama “what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he’s not patriotic enough. He’s got a funny name. You know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He’s risky” wasn’t pulled out of nowhere. It was a reference to an earlier speech by McCain in Missouri where he said that Obama doesn’t look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills.</p>
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<p>Do you remember when there was a huge following for Colin Powell to run?</p>
<p>Still to this day I couldn’t care what party he ran under, but on my love for my husband I can guarantee you I’d pull the lever for him in a NY minute!</p>
<p>If Powell came out tomorrow and said he supports Obama it would not change my vote, he supported Bush…he stood up to the UN and showed the pics. Powell lost his chance. Ross Perot lost his chance with the I’m IN…No I’m Out…No, I.m In again. I have no respect for him either and he got 20% in 88.</p>
<p>I could have been an Obama supporter in 12, if he just took time to get more experience, but all I see him as a climber, at least Hillary kept her promise not to run in 04…again another soundbite from Obama saying he is going to DC for his constituents but gave it 13 mos later!</p>
<p>Here’s a link to the McCain campaign video showing Obama on a dollar bill, which was released at the end of June:
[‘Seal</a>’ - New McCain Video - Political Machine](<a href=“News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com”>News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com)</p>
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<p>Oh, give me a break. Tiger Woods is accomplished at a GAME. He can hit a little ball around and into a little CUP.</p>
<p>Barack Obama has a record of accomplishment too, and in something a hell of a lot more important than a game for country club types.</p>
<p>I’m not even an Obama fanatic, and the ludicrous attacks on him by some people here astound me.</p>
<p>An addendum/redaction/whatever to what I said four posts above: McCain didn’t say that in a speech. The article I was reading said “was Obama playing the race card on Wednesday by referring three times in Missouri to the McCain camp’s suggestion that he doesn’t look like the other presidents on our currency?” and I misunderstood it to think that McCain said that in a speech in Missouri (I’m going to blame it on it having been late and me having been tired, if no one minds ;)). Now, the article did say that McCain did make that remark, but I’m not sure if they’re right since I can find no reference to McCain saying that except for a video I found and would link to if calmom had not beat me to it. ;)</p>
<p>(By the way, is it okay if I come here without being a parent? It’s an interesting discussion and way more civil than what’s going on in the CCCafe.)</p>
<p>The only record of accomplishment Barack Hussein Obama has built is leap-frogging from office to office building his political career while doing nothing in terms of governing accomplishments.</p>
<p>Barack Obama has held elected office for 10 years. </p>
<p>John Edwards held elected office for 6 years. </p>
<p>Hillary Clinton has held elected office for 7 years.</p>
<p>I suppose that among Democrats, the candidates with experience were Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, and Dennis Kucinich – in that order. </p>
<p>So why would someone who values “experience” support Hillary Clinton over Biden or Dodd? </p>
<p>On the Republican side, Mitt Romney was a single-term Governor – a mere 4 years in elective office. Why weren’t people screaming in anger at the presumptuous nature of his campaign? How dare he? </p>
<p>I don’t have any problem with people who consider experience as one factor among many to consider – that makes a lot of sense. But I do see that there does seem at the very least to be some sort of double standard at work here in the extreme anger expressed at Obama for what is perceived to be a premature run, or the citation of that as a reason that the person would “never” vote for him. Don’t issues count for anything? Doesn’t intelligence count? Doesn’t education count? </p>
<p>Personally, I didn’t come into this election as an Obama supporter, but I would vote for him based on the fact that he taught Constitutional law for 12 years alone. Given the way the current administration has trashed the Constitution, I’ll take 12 years spent studying and teaching the US Constitution as evidence that this man stands head and shoulders above any of the other candidates in terms of the “experience” that I want to see. And John McCain’s ill-informed view of [habeas</a> corpus](<a href=“http://civilliberty.about.com/b/2008/06/18/john-mccain-on-habeas-corpus.htm]habeas”>http://civilliberty.about.com/b/2008/06/18/john-mccain-on-habeas-corpus.htm) is reason enough for me to never support him.</p>
<p>Interesteddad, do you know McCain’s middle name? Without looking it up? Just curious.</p>
<p>Interesteddad, how come you don’t refer to McCain by his full name?</p>
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<p>Which didn’t appear to help him when Barrack Hussein Obama reversed course and sold out on the FISA vote.</p>
<p>It bothers me that McCain has been on the government payroll his entire life, and has never worked in the private sector. I think that’s part of why he seems so out of touch, especially regarding health care and economics.How come no one mentions his complete lack of experience in the world in which most of the rest of us live?</p>
<p>Re post #70 - Obama voted for a law that clearly establishes that the FISA provisions the sole mechanism for obtaining a wiretap; the Bush administration had been claiming they had the right to ignore FISA. That’s why he voted for it – he wanted to close the loophole. </p>
<p>What he backed down on was the issue about retroactive immunity from civil liability for the telecoms that had acceded to the Bush demands. There is nothing at all in the Constitution that would give anyone a right to sue a private company for breach of privacy – any liability would stem from statutory provisions.</p>
<p>So that actually is a good example of where Obama’s knowledge of the Constitution might guide him. He is going to prioritize Constitutional concerns above mere statutory issues, because he understands the difference.</p>
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Source: Bob Herbert <a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/opinion/02herbert.html?ref=opinion[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/opinion/02herbert.html?ref=opinion</a></p>
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<p>Calmom, search salon dot com for Glen Greenwald, he has an extensive discussion on FISA. Your reasoning couldn’t be more wrong.</p>
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<p>She was 34 … :(</p>
<p>interesteddad–I know you loathe Obama beyond all reason, but why do you persist in perpetuating the myth that he’s done nothing? </p>
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<p>Another CC-er posted this the other day; you must have missed it. </p>
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<p>Wow, that’s a whole lot of “nothing!”</p>
<p>Note that Idad repeated the “Barack Hussein Obama” thing twice.</p>
<p>No further credibility on this topic, IMHO.</p>
<p>It seems that when Senator Obama starts to weaken in the polls he brings out the race card:</p>
<p>*Mr. Obama has been more explicit about the role of race in attacks against him in the past, but he is rarely specific about who is behind them. “We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run,” he said in June. “They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. ‘He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?’ ”</p>
<p>Steve Schmidt, who runs the day-to-day operations of the McCain campaign, said the campaign had been moved to issue the statement in part because it saw the damage done during the Democratic primary when Obama supporters made accusations that former President Bill Clinton had been racially insensitive, or worse.</p>
<p>“The McCain campaign was compelled to respond to this outrageous attack because we will not allow John McCain to be smeared by Senator Obama as a racist for offering legitimate criticism,” he said. “We have waited for months with a sick feeling knowing this moment would come because we watched it incur with President Clinton. Say whatever you want about President Clinton, his record on this issue is above reproach.”</p>
<p>In the Democratic primary campaign, Mr. Obama’s supporters at several occasions accused the Clinton campaign of using racially charged tactics, particularly after Mr. Clinton equated Mr. Obama’s victory in the South Carolina primary with the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s victory in the nominating contest there in 1988. Mr. Clinton himself then complained in a radio interview in April that the Obama campaign had “played the race card on me.”</p>
<p>Howard Wolfson, who was the communications director of the Clinton campaign, said, “The McCain campaign has obviously been watching our primary very closely and recognized how damaging it had been to be tagged with the charge of race baiting.” *</p>
<p>From: <a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/us/politics/01campaign.html?ref=us[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/us/politics/01campaign.html?ref=us</a></p>
<p>btw - I agree about dropping the BHO term. That’s not persuasive. ;)</p>
<p>Why in the world are the disciples of The One so sensitive about his full name, Barack Hussein Obama? I’ve never seen anything like it. Such as delicate orchid that we can’t even refer to him by his own (alleged) name? Give me a break. If he is so sensitive about it, he should change his name.</p>
<p>I’m not sensitive at all to the use of BHO. But the only reason it seems those of us who are not supporters of Senator Obama use it is to reinforce the fact Obama has a Muslim-sounding middle name. OK, got that. </p>
<p>To continue to state it DOES begin to sound like we don’t observe the First Amendment rights of our fellow citizens after a while. There I draw the line. ;)</p>