October 2010 Writing SAT thread

[Ginseng1981]

<p>out of curiosity what were u previous writing scores? this is my first SAT and on pratices my grammar is around a 75.</p>

[mhnguyen]

<p>What score would a -1 and a 10 essay give me?</p>

[boston1993]

<p>

Quote your source.

INDEED
–interjection
2.
(used as an expression of surprise, incredulity, irony, etc.): Indeed! I can scarcely believe it.
[Indeed</a> | Define Indeed at Dictionary.com](<a href=“http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/indeed]Indeed”>INDEED Definition & Usage Examples | Dictionary.com)</p>

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That’s not how you use as a matter of fact.
If the sentence went something like this, it would make sense: “It is said that organic food is less expensive than conventional food. As a matter of fact, organic food is 40% more expensive”

Quote your source. You’re just making stuff up here. I used your source and now you’re just pulling things out of your you-know-what.</p>

[abercrombie93]

<p>does anybody remember the whole sentence for among my friends and me…?
and yes i am aware of the error, just trying to recall the wording.</p>

[papapia]

<p>First of all, indeed is not being used as an interjection. So you can’t use that definition. Indeed is being used as a sentence connector.</p>

[papapia]

<p>Where the **** is silverturtle?? Silverturtle, get your ass down here</p>

[boston1993]

<p>

First of all, indeed is not being used as an interjection. So you can’t use that definition. Indeed is being used as a sentence connector.

…That’s my point. Indeed only suggests surprise when used as an interjection.</p>

[papapia]

<p>look up indeed on merriam-webster. You’ll find that it means surprise. I messed up on my wording of what i said. Srry about that.</p>

[papapia]

<p>BTW, I find it funny, boston1993, how i’ve been trying to disprove indeed this entire time but not once have you tried to disprove “comparision by”</p>

[boston1993]

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look up indeed on merriam-webster. You’ll find that it means surprise. I messed up on my wording of what i said. Srry about that.

Yeah, that’s one of the definitions.
: —often used interjectionally to express irony or disbelief or surprise
Except “Indeed” was not used interjectionally. And you guys have yet to prove how and why “by comparison” would work. This argument is getting kinda boring/annoying though…</p>

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BTW, I find it funny, boston1993, how i’ve been trying to disprove indeed this entire time but not once have you tried to disprove “comparision by”

Burden of proof fail. You have to prove why “by comparison” works before I have to disprove it.</p>

[papapia]

<p>^we already told you. “By comparision” is compariing the the price of the organic food to the price of the conventional food. “by comparision” is the most literal answer choice.</p>

[clouder]

<p> /ɪnˈdid/ Show Spelled
[in-deed] Show IPA</p>

<p>–adverb

1. in fact; in reality; in truth; truly (used for emphasis, to confirm and amplify a previous statement, to indicate a concession or admission, or, interrogatively, to obtain confirmation): Indeed, it did rain as hard as predicted. Did you indeed finish the work? </p>

<p>If you used “by comparison,” you suggest a contrast</p>

[boston1993]

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we already told you. “By comparision” is compariing the the price of the organic food to the price of the conventional food. “by comparision” is the most literal answer choice.

The sentence didn’t give a price for both organic and non-organic food, it simply stated the percentage of how much more expensive organic food is. And like clouder said, by comparison suggests a contrast – of which there was none.</p>

[papapia]

<p>

Numerous studies reveal that conventionally-grown fruits and vegetables contain dramatically less vitamins and minerals than organically grown produce. By comparison, organic foods contain 27% more vitamin C, 29% more iron, and 14% more phosphorus, on average. Overall. organically-grown broccoli has higher levels of all its healing plant nutrients than conventionally-grown and is often available in the organic food section of your regular grocery store.

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<p>Refer to this paragraph that was posted earlier that you guys willingly chose to ignore. </p>

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[boston1993]

<p>

Refer to this paragraph that was posted earlier that you guys willingly chose to ignore.

Are you serious right now? That’s not even remotely close to the passage on the SAT.</p>

[papapia]

<p>^I am talking about the sentence “By comparision…on average” you nitwit. That sentence is pretty similar to the one on the SAT</p>

[iforgeteasily]

<p>In the

Numerous studies reveal that conventionally-grown fruits and vegetables contain dramatically less vitamins and minerals than organically grown produce. By comparison, organic foods contain 27% more vitamin C, 29% more iron, and 14% more phosphorus, on average. Overall. organically-grown broccoli has higher levels of all its healing plant nutrients than conventionally-grown and is often available in the organic food section of your regular grocery store.

, the by comparison is used to indicate comparisons of the elements within the sentence. However, on the SAT, by comparison would have indicated a comparison between the sentences.</p>

<p>And really, you will no doubt go on and on trying to disprove me on this. But I can’t prove you wrong because all evidence i got is my reading comprehension. My reading comprehension tells me although both indeed and by comparison can work, the by comparison will have a wrong emphasis.</p>

[papapia]

<p>^What? that’s ridiculous. You’re telling me that the “by comparision” in the sentence was not directed to the elements within that same sentence on the SAT’s?</p>

[iforgeteasily]

<p>That is exactly what i am saying.</p>

[moony7218]

<p>If you look at that quote, you can see that it first says that conventionally grown foods are less. Then the next sentence says, “by comparison,” introducing that organic foods are more. Slightly different. It’s like the contrasting view that people are talking about with “by comparison.”</p>