<p>StudiousMaximus. I’m 100% positive it was peer editing.</p>
<p>The first passage explained how great writers in the past got to be as good as they were. He listed 4 i believe and the fourth was that they critiqued each other’s work. Therefore even though he didn’t like writing classes, he believes that peer editing is useful, in a class or not.</p>
<p>The second passage conceded directly that classmate feedback can be helpful. If you have links to the articles online i could point out exactly what i’m talking about for you</p>
<p>The first passage explictly said nothing about peer editing even suggests a creative writing degree program. He explicitly said there was no obvious connect between peer editing and creative writing classes.</p>
<p>You guys, I’m pretty sure the answer was “useful but not essential.” </p>
<p>Both authors DID mention that peer editing was important; however, author 1 never said that peer editing in a writing class made the writing class important. The entire foundation of his argument was built upon the fact that all the things needed to become a good writer could be done without a writing class, and in fact WAS done before writing classes were even invented. He was emphasizing his point that classes were unecessary.</p>
<p>kawaii is right I couldn’t remember the exact examples but I now recall that peer input was one of the 4 factors that lead to great writers and the second passage was even more explicit in this assertion</p>
<p>Yeah guys, The first passage ignored writing classes for a moment and talked about the methods used by writers before writing classes existed. One of them was definitely peer editing.</p>
<p>I’m googling everywhere for the exact article, give me some time, I might find it eventually</p>
<p>Edit: I did consider “useful but not essential” quite a bit but then I noticed the example in passage 1. The problem with “useful but not essential” is WAYYYYY too generic. Also, passage 1 author didn’t even say that writing classes are useful, he stuck with the idea that what you can do in writing classes is exactly what people have done before they existed.</p>
<p>kawaii: I wouldn’t throw around 100% judgments like that. I have a feeling your faultless confidence might take a hit in 17 days.</p>
<p>There it goes again. If the writing classes would be useful for peer editing, then they would be useful in general. And both authors were clear in their thinking that writing classes were not essential. Hence, “useful but not essential.”</p>
<p>@studiousmaximus I’m assuming you were addressing me? I’m the one who said I was 100% sure haha. I was just trying to say I’m pretty confident of my answer but of course no one can be sure of anything until scores come out. Anyway I don’t think anyone’s going to back down from his or her position because everyone wants to believe they’ll get the maximum score which is only normal
EDIT: nevermind that was kawaii as well but my argument still stands. But let’s digress for a second, do you remember the question for which scientists’ motives was an answer choice? was that the same as the behavioral science question?</p>
<p>The consensus on CC (if you read through all the previous posts) is that the answer is “useful but not essential”. I’m pretty sure CC is rarely wrong.</p>
<p>No where in the essays and the question did it imply that writing classes took advantage of peer editing but both authors thought peer editing helps to improve writing. </p>
<p>(This is really hard to explain to be honest lol, I’m trying my best) What it all comes down is that “both authors agree that” “having fellow students to peer edit is useful”. This has nothing to do with writing classes even though it says students, just referring to having people around to peer edit. </p>
<p>BUT is not “both authors agree that” “writing classes are useful but not esential” </p>
<p>If you want any clarification please ask, I’m re-reading what i’m writing hear and admittedly it’s pretty jumbled</p>
<p>^ Okay, I’m beginning to understand your confusion. The question specifically asked about the authors’ mutual opinion regarding writing classes. So the answer <em>had</em> to be something related to the classes, not just writing in general. Hence, if your reasoning had “nothing to do with writing classes,” it probably led you to the wrong choice.</p>
<p>I have to agree to disagree, the way I read it the question made no mention of writing classes specifically, but then again I think this was one of the last section I took, my eyes might have been so far rolled into my head that I missed a few words</p>
<p>Exactly. Thank you. They were asking what they both would agree about classes. Key word: would agree. Obviously they wouldn’t say skilled writers wouldn’t attend and there others that were down right wrong. Useful but not essential made some sense but the fact is the passage 1 never said that they were useful. However you could still conclude that they could expose you to valuable peer feedback. It’s a conclusion and implication. You have to conclude that the authors would agree that a peer feedback could be opened to a writer in the passages.</p>
<p>at this point I think it’s a matter of who read the question right. Let’s not have another 2:1 vs 8:3 haha. You should all just pat each other on the back for defending your points well and being unwavering in your opinions.</p>
<p>I agree we won’t know the correct answer until the sores and report are out. I was simply saying that the list has useful but not essential as if it was no question. It did say would agree by the way.</p>
<p>This might be stupid but for the writing section what was the answer for the one about either this girl or this guy were available to take questions for the store? It was a error identifying question, sorry I don’t remember the details</p>
<p>Okay, I had 2 writing sections, sections 2 & 3. Section 2 was more difficult than usual, and section 3 was at about the level of difficulty I would expect, if not easier. Is there a consensus on which one was real and which one was the experimental? I really hope it was the “easier” one. </p>