***October 2015 SAT (US Only) Thread***

i agree, absolutely correct is perfectly acceptable.

  1. Absolutely certain or sure/essential/guaranteed: Someone who is certain or sure is already without doubt. Something that is essential is intrinsically absolute. A guarantee is by nature absolute (or should be). Abandon absolutely in such usage.
  2. Actual experience/fact: An experience is something that occurred (unless otherwise indicated). A fact is something confirmed to have happened. Actual is extraneous in these instances.
  3. Add an additional: To add is to provide another of something. Additional is extraneous.
  4. Added bonus: A bonus is an extra feature, so added is redundant.
  5. Advance notice/planning/reservations/warning: Notices, planning, reservations, and warnings are all, by their nature, actions that occur before some event, so qualifying such terms with advance is superfluous.
  6. As for example: As implies that an example is being provided, so omit “an example.”
  7. Ask a question: To ask is to pose a question, so question is redundant.
  8. At the present time: “At present” means “at this time,” so avoid the verbose version.
  9. Basic fundamentals/essentials: Fundamentals and essentials are by their nature elementary, so remove basic from each phrase.
  10. (Filled to) capacity: Something filled is done so to capacity, so describing something as “filled to capacity” is repetitive.
  11. Came at a time when: When provides the necessary temporal reference to the action of coming; “at a time” is redundant.
  12. Close proximity/scrutiny: Proximity means “close in location,” and scrutiny means “close study,” so avoid qualifying these terms with close.
  13. Collaborate/join/meet/merge together: If you write of a group that collaborates or meets together, you imply that there’s another way to collect or confer. To speak of joining or merging together is, likewise, redundant.
  14. Completely filled/finished/opposite: Something that is filled or finished is thoroughly so; completely is redundant. Something that is opposite isn’t necessarily diametrically opposed, especially in qualitative connotations, but the modifier is still extraneous.
  15. Consensus of opinion: A consensus is an agreement but not necessarily one about an opinion, so “consensus of opinion” is not purely redundant, but the phrase “of opinion” is usually unnecessary.
  16. (During the) course (of): During means “in or throughout the duration of”), so “during the course of” is repetitive.
  17. Definite decision: Decisions may not be final, but when they are made, they are unequivocal and therefore definite, so one should not be described as “a definite decision.”
  18. Difficult dilemma: A dilemma is by nature complicated, so omit difficult as a modifier.
  19. Direct confrontation: A confrontation is a head-on conflict. Direct as a qualifier in this case is redundant.
  20. End result: A result is something that occurs at the end, so omit end as a modifier of result.
  21. Enter in: To enter is to go in, so throw in out.
  22. Estimated at about/roughly: An estimate is an approximation. About and roughly are superfluous.
  23. False pretense: A pretense is a deception, so false is redundant.
  24. Few in number: Few refers to a small number; do not qualify few with the modifier “in number.”
  25. Final outcome: An outcome is a result and is therefore intrinsically final.
  26. First began, new beginning: A beginning is when something first occurs, so first and new are superfluous terms in these cases.
  27. For a period/number of days: Days is plural, so a duration is implied; “a period of” or “a number of” is redundant. It’s better to specify the number of days or to generalize with many.
  28. Foreign imports: Imports are products that originate in another country, so their foreign nature is implicit and the word foreign is redundant.
  29. Forever and ever: Ever is an unnecessary reduplication of forever.
  30. Free gift: A gift is by definition free (though cynics will dispute that definition), so free is extraneous.
  31. Invited guests: Guests are intrinsically those who have an invitation, so invited is redundant.
  32. Major breakthrough: A breakthrough is a significant progress in an effort. Though major is not directly redundant, the notable nature of the event is implicit.
  33. [Number] a.m. in the morning/p.m. in the evening: The abbreviations a.m. and p.m. already identify the time of day, so omit “in the morning” or “in the evening.”
  34. Past history/record: A history is by definition a record of past occurrences, and a record is documentation of what has already happened. In both cases, past is redundant.
  35. Plan ahead: To plan is to prepare for the future. Ahead is extraneous.
  36. Possibly might: Might indicates probability, so omit the redundant qualifier possibly.
  37. Postpone until later: To postpone is to delay. Later is superfluous.
  38. Protest against: To protest is to communicate opposition. Against is redundant.
  39. Repeat again: To repeat is to reiterate an action, so again is unnecessary.
  40. Revert back: Something that reverts returns to an earlier state. Back is superfluous.
  41. Same identical: Same and identical are just that (and that). Omit same as a qualifier for identical.
  42. Since the time when: Since indicates a time in the past; “the time when” is superfluous.
  43. Spell out in detail: To spell out is to provide details, so “in detail” is repetitive.
  44. Still remains: Something that remains is still in place. Still is redundant.
  45. Suddenly exploded: An explosion is an immediate event. It cannot be any more sudden than it is.
  46. Therapeutic treatment: Treatment in the sense of medical care is by nature therapeutic, so the adjective is redundant.
  47. Unexpected surprise: No surprise is expected, so the modifier is extraneous.
  48. Unintended mistake: A mistake is an inadvertently erroneous action. The lack of intention is implicit.
  49. Usual custom: A custom is something routinely and repeatedly done or observed, and usual is redundant.
  50. Written down: Something written has been taken down. Down is superfluous.

off of google theres some.

honestly though i wouldnt overthink these writing questions and rely on instinct. if you can instantly replace it with a better work then go with that

@facsimilecoterie Were all of those actual errors on tests? Because I’ve seen a few like “possibly night” but some like “protest against” and “major breakthrough” seem too commonplace to be an error. Also, “protest with” has appeared in error ID and the correction was "protest against " so I can’t really see CB saying “protest against” is wrong in a different question.

@ineffablemind not on the test, it was just googling redundant questions.
@juicymango yea that strategy does make sense

also i noticed that compared with and compared to are different things. compared with is two similar things and compared to is two different things

Have you guys received the QAS yet?

@ensigmapi Sadly, no…

My QAS arrived a couple days ago. If anybody has questions, feel free to ask.

@ambitionsquared Could you post pictures of the curves? Also, was it analytical or emphatic?

It was analytical. I don’t know how to post pictures, but here are the curves:
Math: 770 (-1), 740, 720, 710, 690, 680, 670, 660, 650 etc.
CR: 800 (-2), 790, 770, 750, 730, 720, 710, 700, 680, 670, 660, 650, 650 etc.
Writing (10 essay): 800, 770 (-1), 750, 730, 710, 700
The writing scale varies very slightly for the other prompt, but always within 10 points.
@jtuthri
Thoughts: Math curve was slightly harsh. Even though many suffered from the writing curve, it actually benefitted me. I got an 800 with 9 essay (80 mc), which wouldn’t happen with almost any other exam. The CR curve seems very unforgiving to me. I found the November test much easier yet that had a more generous curve. I especially found the passage about teaching difficult; I missed 5 questions in that section but perfect scores on the other 2 CR sections.

@ambitionsquared Good on you for getting an 800 with a 9, but that’s actually pretty common. I got majorly schulzed by the writing curve (I missed 2, got an 8, got 700), which is why I’m retaking it this week.

Oh, and someone I know who took it this month said that the November cr curve was worse (-2 = 790).

@jtuthri I definitely missed 2 CR in November and still got 800. Missing 3 (-4) was a 790 in November, while missing 3 in October was 770. Sorry to hear that the curve cost you that much, considering you were only 2 questions from a 770-ish. I’m sure you’ll nail it this time.

@donaldtrumped
I like your username with a passion

Got the QAS, and the writings section is just some BS.
“Sufficiently enough” really? They had to ask this?

I got a 710 Writing. Terrible curve! With a 10 essay and -3 MC, the score should have been 740. This curve was terrible. I’m hoping to score an 800 writing in December.

I heard that most colleges don’t even look at the SAT writing section which is why they’re removing the writing section for the new SAT. Is this true?

@donaldtrumped That’s a general rule of thumb, and many schools altogether omit the writing section from their freshman profiles. If your school of interest does include it, it would likely help to score well on it. Math+CR is typically more important, and this is coming from a guy with 800 writing.

@facsimilecoterie what is this list? are these redundant-type mistakes tested in previous tests?

@Wreckdecembersat nope, just redundancies off the internet

“Many,” not “most.” And the CB did not remove the writing section for the new SAT." The CB simply changed it and merged it with Reading (for scoring purposes). The “optional” essay is likely to be required by many selective schools, much as top-20 schools used to require the SAT-2 Writing Test back before SAT-1 included writing. @donaldtrumped

Has anyone received their Question and Answer service for this test in SoCal?