<p>Yes, I agree - if she had 14 kids of progressively different ages, that would have been far easier to accomplish from a parenting standpoint. Having that many infants at once seems impossibly difficult.</p>
<p>I wish her the best, but hope that she is done having children.</p>
<p>This woman is the poster child for the “me” generation. Everything in her life is about her. She has no concern for how any of her actions affect others, especially her children. </p>
<p>I really hope that a guardian will be appointed to take control of any money she receives so that it will be used to raise those children and if there is any left over for her to pay back the state of CA!</p>
<p>I think volunteers will come out and continue, and donations will help too. I give the benefit of the doubt that most people can differentiate and separate their feelings towards this woman and what she’s done, and their concern and compassion for the children who are here now whether we like it or not. </p>
<p>However much some may want to express their anger and ‘revenge’ feelings upon this woman, the children’s best interest is what matters now. Maybe we can turn this thread into a functional one about ideas that would work best for the kids? They are unlikely to have the healthiest upbringing, but given the circumstances and constraints, what is the best that can happen to them? </p>
<p>I don’t believe they will go into state custody nor get adopted out. Anyone know of cases where the state took away children because the parents were too poor to raise them? I thought instead the state provides resources so they can afford to care for them. I think if it were possible to have them adopted out, it would take years to actually happen (in a legal way) and I think that would be incredibly traumatic for children. Being adopted as an infant is one thing, having no mother or being taken from your mother early on is just a recipe for attachment disorder. </p>
<p>I think they are better off in their family if resources and support were made available for it to happen. That has to come from either the state, or from ‘exploitation’ of a commercial kind (e.g. books, TV, whatever). It seems many would say both are wrong. But where does that leave the children? </p>
<p>This should no longer be about ‘what is fair’ but what is best for the kids.</p>
<p>She is a me generation, added in with a spoiled brat!</p>
<p>I think between all of the interviews with her mom and her, there is a def. trend, she guilted her Mom into everything and now is trying it on a much grander scale.</p>
<p>I would love to hear the phone calls between the 2 of them now, although I doubt there are any (pretty hard to get over the fact that Mom told the world that she and Dad were not happy, and pretty hard to get over the fact that your child placed a gag order on you while she still wants financial support)</p>
<p>I know her folks are divorced I wonder if she was the cause of it. My in-laws have been married for over 50 yrs, but our B-I-L got divorced 3 yrs ago and moved back into their 2bdrm adult community home 2 yrs ago…he has been the cause of every fight. FIL wants him out, MIL won’t abandon him…OBTW he was 47 when he moved in.</p>
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<p>Agreed. I’m pro-choice and anti-stupid. I don’t believe the state should interfere with her decision about her reproductive choices, but I still believe that I can comment about what a dumb idea it is that someone who can’t even afford the 6 kids she has to have 8 more in one blow.</p>
<p>Belonging to a church that is known to provide benefits to those members in need, I can say that over the years I have known people who are members who seem to be abusing the process (only seem to be members to get the $$). I would be interested in how the members of this mega-church will step up to the plate.</p>
<p>A single mother without a job and 6 kids at home adds 8 more kids (not sympathetic) vs. 14 kids who really could use the help (sympathetic victims). If the church concentrates on the welfare of the babies, I think they will provide the service needed.</p>
<p>I’m just glad that she hasn’t shown up on the doors of my church. Un-Christian feelings, I know, but I am a work in progress…</p>
<p>I know this sounds cynical, but I wonder how many volunteers are for real, and how many want to get a 1st hand look.</p>
<p>Do you think Nadya will be in the Guinness Book of World Records for birthing the most kids in shortest amount of time? I mean, 14 in six years… it would be hard to beat that. </p>
<p>I keep thinking that the children might get more attention being raised in an Ethiopian orphanage where there are loving caregivers for every five or six children/babies. </p>
<p>I just don’t see how she can do it, even with church help and money from selling her story, pictures, etc… She doesn’t seem organized enough and she seems too self-centered.</p>
<p>Of course kids are not taken from homes because the parents can’t afford them. I’m not sure people think these kids should be taken either. But you can bet that child and family services look out for the best interests of children and it is not so much a matter of money but how much care and how good it is that these kids can receive under very difficult circumstances, where lack of money is only ONE issue. Ideally, kids are not taken from their parents but services are in place to oversee that they are properly cared for.</p>
<p>It was not that long ago that 6 sweet babys, the Morrison sexuplets were born premature. It was heart wrenching for many as 5 of them died, one by one of a period of time. The sole survivor has a host of issues from being premature. The cost of medical care for the mother and those babies was astronomical. </p>
<p>There was a big deal made about reducing the number of embryos to implant. Many were saying that 3 is the most that should be implanted. Yet this still can happen. I think the doctor who implanted those babies should be named the “father”. He can take care of them.</p>
<p>“I think the doctor who implanted those babies should be named the “father”. He can take care of them.”</p>
<p>cptofthehouse! you rule.</p>
<p>wouldnt the implantation of more than 6 embryos in a mentally disturbed fertile woman be a good malpractice suit?</p>
<p>Did you see that the doctor implanted quads into a 49-year old with three other kids?</p>
<p>I’m not sure the kids shouldn’t be removed from the home.</p>
<p>Just heard a news story on the television that the Assistant Pastor of the Church stated that they do not believe that Nadya was ever a member of the Church - He stated that she had once called to inquire about the children’s ministry but he believes that the phone call is her only connection to the church.</p>
<p>Her instability and inability to tell the truth should be something that should be carefully monitored if her family life is evaluated - She is apparently lacking a sense of reality and that should be one of the major concerns when it comes to her ability to bring up these children.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t be surprised if she tries to sue someone involved in this. Maybe the in vitro doctor, the kaiser doctors, or even the guy who donated the sperm. Maybe she’ll try to get child support from him.</p>
<p>My H has been saying all along that someone should go after the doctor. He thinks that the doctor should be responsible for putting that many embryos into an unstable woman and he should be made to pay the costs!</p>
<p>Wish I knew how to link articles but anyway…</p>
<p>I actually heard the assistant pastor of Calvary Chapel Golden Springs read the church’s statement that “The Church is not involved in any of the mentioned activities - ie. establishing a foundation for the octuplets, locating a new house for the family, providing financial assistance - and that anyone who is interested in assisting this family should go directly to the octuplets’ website.” I also read several articles regarding this statement but I do not know how to link them to this board…!</p>
<p>A few days ago, the Church was quoted as being ready to support the family - Some think that maybe they were pressured into retracting that statement and their involvement with the Suleman family. </p>
<p>This situation just keeps getting weirder, sadder and more pathetic with each passing day…</p>
<p>Capt…that is a brilliant solution to this tragedy! The doctor should be named the daddy…it was he and Nadya who compsired with each other to create this situation…It should be his responsibility to take care of them now!!</p>
<p>I have to confess, I am officially addicted to this thread, lol. It stirs up so many emotions for me. I’m really struck by how many other people feel the way I do. I will go back to “my” story with my mere triplet pregnancy…lol…Its kind of weird to read that doctors consider an IVF triplet pregnancy to be a failure…yikes. However, I was warned from day 1 of the risks to my health, and the babies. I was very small when I got pregnant, and nature somehow made my body accomadate all three babies…but, wow was it hard. I was on bedrest for the first 3 months…then limited activity for the 4th, and pretty much bedrest at home, until I had the kids. We found out in the 5th month, that baby “c” hadn’t grown at the same rate as the other two…and the doctors were afraid that I would lose the whole pregnancy if anything happened to him. It was an awful time…I know there was a point where the doctors mentioned selective reduction. I couldn’t fathom that to be honest with you. I did everything the doctors told me to do…and managed to get to 37 weeks:) The babies were all a great birth weight as well. 5.3 (girl), 5.5 (boy), 4.6 (boy)
My smallest boy is the one who has cerebral palsy and other neurological issues. It is not easy, by any means. Northstarmom described it well, about the nonstop therapies, until they finally get to school…but, our case is much different. My son has a very low IQ…but is bright in his own way:) He didn’t start talking until he was about 5…at one point a doctor had told me he would never walk, talk, potty train or feed himself…that was the doctor who initially diagnosed him. We immediately found a different doctor who said, thats a silly thing to ever say…there is no limit to what is possible:) We stayed with him until he retired. I can’t even begin to stress what an emotional impact a disabled child has on the parents…I felt so guilty…wondering if it was something I did while pregnant…etc. No one could convince me that it wasn’t my fault. But, someone finally got it through to me, that I didn’t cause it, and I can’t cure it…but, I can make it better. It is a hard thing to a mom to deal with, though I have to say the rewards are also ten times more precious.</p>
<p>One of the things that drives me nuts about Nadya, is the thing with her getting school loans, and thinking she’s going to just leave an army of volunteers while she’s off at school, having a grand old time for herself. You couldn’t have torn me away from my kids when they were infants…or toddlers, adolescents, teens…ok, I could have done without the teen years, lol. But in my wildest dreams, the idea of help to me, was if someone came over, maybe I could take a nap, haha…geez!!</p>
<p>“it is not so much a matter of money but how much care and how good it is”</p>
<p>That’s right. It simply isn’t possible for one person to parent 8 infants effectively. I’m not all sure that it’s possible for one person to even meet the urgent physical needs of 8 infants. The only way money can help here is to buy the services of additional caretakers.</p>
<p>" have to confess, I am officially addicted to this thread, lol. It stirs up so many emotions for me. I’m really struck by how many other people feel the way I do. "</p>
<pre><code>I think its because Nadya is the “anti-CC mom”. So many of us on this forum are obsessive planners, constantly going over the details of our kids lives (and enjoying the process)-------She on the other hand could give a rats ass how her actions affect her family. Its fascinating.
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<p>I know some think we should be giving constructive advice. And I will, as soon as momof14posts a question, I promise I will be more than helpful. But something tells me that this is not the kind of place dear Nadya seeks advice.</p>
<p>Musica,
“momof14”…good CC name. I imagine we could think of many names she could post under (but she won’t have time…let alone inclination)</p>
<p>FAFSAHopeful
BabiesRUs
ABCDEFGandH!
CrazyMom
SleeplessMom
GiveMoney
AllIEverWanted
GettingMyDegree
LonelyChild
6+8
MommieMcFamous
IHugMyKids
IVFHopeful
IVFAlum</p>
<p>add Jym’s:
WombWithAView</p>
<p>Papagena,</p>
<p>My parents were told by the doctors that my sister who was 9 weeks preemie almost 50 years ago would never walk, talk, and not be able to function.</p>
<p>While she did have many challenges in her life, she just recently got her doctorate and walked (with a limp), talked (very late - nearly 3) and functions mostly just fine.</p>
<p>But the amount of care back then and physical therapies, surgeries and one on one care she needed was tough. That was a singleton pregnancy, too.</p>