My D’s DE courses were a partnership with a university and the hs. The curriculum was established by the university and only teachers with PhDs were allowed to teach them (private hs) Courses were at the hs.
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Something to consider:
Dual enrollment grades count when determing the GPA for law school admissions. Not sure if this applies to other graduate degrees.
D24 is interested in law school and has about 12 hours? of dual enrollment so when the LSAC recalculates her GPA, those grades will giver her a boost.
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As alluded to before, this is probably also a reason why colleges like national/standardized tests like AP/SAT/ACT.
Are there any other countries where the school leaving exams are done by school district rather than regionally (state/province) or nationally?
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Quick answer: Yes.
I mean, for starters not every country even has standardized end-of-secondary-school exams (see, for example, Mexico or Belgium or Switzerland).
But Canada has some provinces with school leaving exams, and some without—so kind of like the US in that regard. In Germany, education is left to the Länder(=states), and so there’s no national exam, only state exams. And so on.
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Ok, interesting. Would think standardized tests would be more in demand when you can’t control for different grading requirements etc.
Someone once told me in the Netherlands, at least where they went, they don’t really bar anyone from entering and let freshman year weed out those who couldn’t make it. That makes more sense if there’s no consistent way to compare school-leavers.
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Some countries have standardized exams after 12th grade to enter engineering and/or medical schools (at school, state and/or national level). I think this is true for India and China.
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These are still not school by school of course. I think a number of countries run on a state or provincial system, where you do still have a wide benchmark to judge on. So you would not, for example, be worrying about grade inflation or deflation at a particular school. It was weird to me when we moved to the US to see that there is no subject grading beyond a particular school unless you do APs.
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We are meandering very off topic here. Please start a new thread if ya’ll would like to continue exams in other countries. Further posts in this thread will be hidden/deleted. TIA!
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You must not have looked very hard. PJ’s is a Hopkin’s institution and right across the street (or was until about a year ago), Charles Village Pub only a block further.
Exactly. There’s a way to frame an open curriculum as a positive. “I’m scared of math” is definitely not it. Pretty sure the AOs would cringe if they knew the tour guides were saying stuff like this.
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We have two types of dual enrollment. One where the kids take a normal high school class but get college credit. The other where students go to the CC and take classes there. They get credit at the CC and the high school. My son took the former -and since he stayed in state, he was able to get credit for that. My daughter is doing the latter -and I don’t know if those credits will transfer. I’m also not sure how colleges view them regarding her application, but it allowed her to have time for some other interesting things in her schedule.
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It’s so interesting reading about the different ways that DE/CC classes are done and perceived in different places. We’re in California and at least in our experience, community college classes are very well respected (I guess I am saying by the general public and by UC schools). In our area, if high school students want to take these classes, they take them on campus at the community college along with the community college students, taught by the community college professors (who mostly have PhDs). They usually take them because they are interested in the subject matter and want to learn more than what a high school offers.
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I thought Yale was founded before Princeton?
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Thanks for posting! UMass-Amherst is on my D26’s list. I have read that there are real issues with limited housing (due mainly to not keeping up with enrollment over the years). I have also read that rentals in Amherst are $$$. Were housing issues addressed during your college visit?
Yes, that is the way DE works at our (CA) HS. There is also a rule that students aren’t allowed to do this if the subject is taught at the HS.
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It was: 1701 to be exact. But, Princeton came up with the original idea of copying the Oxford and Cambridge architecture style in order to boost its image as a prestigious academic institution (along with a name change from College of NJ). Yale soon followed cause the “gothic” style apparently succeeded in enhancing Princeton’s status. In fact, Yale went a step further and acid washed the exterior of some of its buildings to make them look a couple of hundred years old.
Harvard, meanwhile, preferred to retain its red brick character. Harvard was already the top academic school in the country. As an aside, in the 1920s Duke’s West Campus was built to look like Princeton. Needless to say, today Duke enjoys a top 10 US News Ranking.
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Yes! Housing is guaranteed freshman year. Sophomore year housing is guaranteed as long as you sign up for everything on-time! Jr and senior year housing is not guaranteed on campus. Important to find housing 8-9 months early before jr year begins! Cost not as issue, because UMass-Amherst is already less money than other schools for us.
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That is really not unusual for any flagship. Often only freshmen live in the dorms and everyone else lives around the school. Expensive? Try Berkeley or Boulder.
But thousands of students figure it out every year.
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CA senior here, currently in a dual/concurrent enrollment class. Seconding what you and @tamagotchi said about how DE works, but I’ll add more because why not: in some places (like my district), there’s dual and then concurrent enrollment, which both fall under the umbrella of Dual Enrollment but differ in their level of involvement of the high school. It’s really annoying for students because there’s no official difference between the two on transcripts, even though the CE classes are “real” college classes unlike DE, since they’re taught by professors on a college campus with no extra support like DE classes get.
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Honestly, I wish that that terminology would spread, then—we’d have an easy, widely recognized way to differentiate what really are two very different learning experiences.
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