***Official Dec 2014 SAT (US ONLY)***

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Not really. My family and their family are quite close, and I personally was a daily acquaintance of the older daughter. While the children did indeed experience enormous amounts of pressure and stress, most of it was from their mother. And furthermore, when they succeeded and did their best in everything they were told to do, their mother was understanding.</p>

<p>In contrast, though, for many other students out there, even when they do their best, their parents are not accepting. I feel as if this is the true “Asian parent” model. Even worse, for those rare, prudent students, especially on this forum, the stress and huge pressure for not failing is on themselves rather than their parents. Through the viewpoint of an unknowledgeable foreign student with no parent to guide their way to success in college, the situation that the tiger children were in would seem like a luxury rather than a burden. They literally had their plan for success laid out for them, and all they had to do was follow it. Instead of being eternally doubtful of themselves and always stressing out for failing, the guaranteed form of success to them was simply following their mother’s wishes. Whereas for those other students, they had to try and fail and then try again, lacking any form of guidance, and blindly trying to find the path first, and then going through all that pressure and stress to achieve it. </p>

<p>So what I’m trying to say is that the Tiger Mom example is really a downplaying of what the true Asian parent model is like. But to those unaware Westerners, as Chua pointedly says, the Tiger Mom story seems like the actual hell on earth for children, although the truth is far from what the book seems to portray. In short, every time I hear an American friend speaking about tiger parents and claiming some sort of association or musing about how dreadful the children’s lives seemed, I usually ask to them to stop speaking about the book, citing my reason as “personal”. Because as far as what I personally know, that novel is really a false depiction of what the true Asian parent situation, or the general foreign student life, is like.</p>

<p>Nevertheless, scores are out in 2 more days! Hopefully, if CollegeBoard decides to release them at midnight, we’ll only need to wait 48 more hours to find out our fate!
That said, I hope you all get the score you got!
As a personal promise, if I do indeed get the score I personally want, I’ll offer to help those who scored lower than I did as much information about scoring better as I possibly can. And that’s a guarantee!</p>

<p>So let’s pray to the God of CollegeBoard that we didn’t screw up! :]</p>

<p>either i’m getting the best present for christmas or a lump of coal in my stocking… come on collegeboard </p>

<p>TIME CHECK: @Woandering‌
1 DAY 17 HOURS 8 MINUTES 25 SECONDS </p>

<p>What do you guys think i will get in cr if i missed two questions?</p>

<p>@DPattt You’ll probably get either an 800 or a 790, depending on the curve. </p>

<p>@DPattt‌ I would say 800 because the general consensus is that the cr section was kind of hard</p>

<p>Thanks guys, hopefully that’s all i missed. Gl to everyone else; i hope you get the scores you want.</p>

<p>@DPattt‌ bro i have no ideaaa 800 right? </p>

<p>TIME CHECK
1 DAY 15 HOURS 54 MINUTE 20 SECONDS</p>

<p>This time in two days we’ll be either celebrating or depressed. Can’t wait.</p>

<p>So nervous! Trying to focus on application essays and studying for tests next week. I’m not even on winter break yet. </p>

<p>@beaucoup‌ thats brutal, good luck! </p>

<p>Do you guys know about the kid that caught caught taking the SAT 16 times, and took it for other people and got nearly a perfect score every time for them, and he charged each of them thousands of dollars to take the test and stuff? The dude lives like an hour away from me lol </p>

<p>@thegrant isn’t he in jail or sth for doing that?</p>

<p>He got arrested eventually, but to be honest, his “service” wasn’t really that OP.
He usually averaged around 2250-2300 on his tests, and to be honest, many, many students across the nation could perform the same or even better on multiple tests, especially if they knew the outcome wouldn’t affect their college acceptance in any way.</p>

<p>@allista‌ @BipolarBuddhist‌ my friend has ADHD and was gonna sell me adderall for the SAT, and i was so depserate i was so close to buying and using it for the test-- but that doesnt even compare to having somebody else actually take the test for you that is just crazy lol </p>

<p>To be honest, the SAT is really not that hard. Given ample time, resource, and DISCIPLINE (which so many students these days lack), ANYONE who is not mentally impaired can achieve a 2200+.
Unfortunately, most people are not disciplined even when they claim to be, and then complain the SAT is hard.
By discipline, I mean spending one summer of 60 days, doing 1 SAT everyday. Doing practice like that, over 50+ tests, will essentially guarantee you your 2200+. Instead, so many kids are lazy and slack off with tutoring and prep classes which absolutely do not help as much as pure discipline.</p>

<p>The biggest problem I see today in kids is that they claim to have studied so much but in reality just crammed in 2-3 practice tests the last month before their test. Honestly, 99% of those 2300+ scorers spent the 50+ practice tests worth of time and discipline in getting their score; the other 1% are those who were just innately intelligent at taking tests.</p>

<p>I don’t know why people believe the SAT is not fair. It is quite fair indeed, as it is objective; you study to get that many questions right, then you do so. There might be a curveball thrown at you, but that’s just another part of your studying. In the end, you either studied enough to get that question right or just not enough, and you get it wrong. Ever wonder how there are people who can so consistently score above 2350+ one every single SAT, practice or real, they take? It comes from practice. In an extreme example that an Asian guy on this forum once told me, “When taking the SAT is the equivalent of circling a bunch of circles, then obtaining a 2400 is not hard at all.” So that’s the trick - there is none; study the test until you know how it works, and it’ll be just like taking any other test at your school, which you can definitely get a perfect score given the preparation.</p>

<p>@BipolarBuddhist‌ YES I AM WITH YOU ON THAT. PREACH</p>

<p>@BipolarBuddhist‌ </p>

<p>I wouldn’t completely agree with that. </p>

<p>You would first need to know all the grammar rules, vocab (to a certain extent), and math skills. Granted, they’re not too hard to learn, but having a tutor vs no tutor can make a difference. (Hence the rich vs poor unfairness)</p>

<p>Furthermore, how would you get 60 practice tests? Again, you could pay for them, but that’s another rich vs poor unfairness. </p>

<p>Finally, does everyone have time to practice? Along with summer programs and homework, many students also need to work part or near full time during the summer because they could be the main source of income for their families. This even happens during the school year.</p>

<p>Other than attaining practice material, knowing SAT info, and having the time to practice, all you need to do is practice, and yes once you have everything else, it just comes down to your patience and persistence.</p>

<p>@Woandering‌ Oh snap i didnt even think about that – preach </p>

<p>You guys are lucky I have school tomorrow and Tuesday.</p>

<p>How do you think the curve will be?</p>

<p>What do you think I will score?</p>

<p>R: 5-6 wrong + 1 skip (-8 raw score)
M: 0 wrong
W: 2 wrong 11 essay</p>

<p>Do I have shot for 2200+?</p>