Official Election 2008 thread

<p>From Post 100…I’m asking what you meant by term limits instituted by the republicans.</p>

<p>I was referring to the fact that the President of the United Sates of America is limited to two terms in office by the 22nd amendment to the Constitution of the United States.</p>

<p>The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States was passed by the Republican controlled 80th Congress. Known to history as the “do nothing congress.”</p>

<p>"The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States was passed by the Republican controlled 80th Congress. Known to history as the “do nothing congress.”</p>

<p>Having been ratified and actually become part of the Constitution of the United States, isn’t it time for you to moveon.org already?</p>

<p>From post 85….”When you argue in favor of abandoning the mission in Iraq”</p>

<p>What is the “mission in Iraq”</p>

<p>After you get any Bush supporter to define “mission,” then get them to define “success” or “victory” in terms of the Iraqi components on the ground. It’s good entertainment.</p>

<p>Every conservative in the country can vote for the GOP candidate, though in reality it will be around 90-93 percent…there are always ideologically inexplicable votes on both sides.</p>

<p>However, the GOP is going to suffer major loss of the share of the votes among independents, women, and Hispanics. In 2004, the independent vote broke roughly equally. You can look at all the polling data from the past year plus…independents are now breaking heavily towards the Democrats. On issue after issue, their percentages are between the Republicans and the Democrats but are much closer to the Democrats. </p>

<p>Democratic unity is also at a high-level, approaching Republican-like numbers…we normally do a pretty good job of squabbling among ourselves and forming up circular firing squads.</p>

<p>TB, Anbar is sui generis. It’s relatively homogenous, AQ was the Sunni enemy rather than the Shiites, and the US is doing things like banning private vehicle traffic in a city the size of Fallujah…that’s one way to cut down the bombings I guess but Fallujah’s a pretty large city, must be hell on basic services. </p>

<p>Anyone want to make a side bet about the outcome when the central government tries to assert its authority in Anbar? Heck, is anyone even <em>aware</em> of how the central government has tried to repeatedly short-circuit the US aid to the Sunnis in Anbar? Hellooooooooooooooooooooo!?</p>

<p>From post 102….”Having been ratified and actually become part of the Constitution of the United States, isn’t it time for you to moveon.org already”</p>

<p>You are the one who ask me the question, I just answer the question you ask. </p>

<p>Your “moveon already” comment was very clever, I am sure you are quite please with your self for having made it. It is good to have a clever mind to make up for a lack of knowledge of history and the U S Constitution.</p>

<p>“Your “moveon already” comment was very clever, I am sure you are quite please with your self for having made it. It is good to have a clever mind to make up for a lack of knowledge of history and the U S Constitution.”</p>

<p>You have no idea what I know or don’t know. I was asking YOU to explain what you meant in YOUR own, personal post. The rudeness on this forum is utterly spectacular this week. Really. And it almost all seems to be coming from one side of the aisle.</p>

<p>ZM, considering just how thoroughly this so-called administration has trashed and damaged this country, it’s sometimes a bit much to remember to be polite. Just as it is when Busheviks equate dissent with treason, used 9/11 as a political token to divide the country for partisan purposes, trashed good men like vet & quadraplegic Max Cleland by morphing him into Osama bin Laden in ads, etc. ad infinitum. I don’t recall any of the Republican voices now whining about politeness objecting to that sort of crap, so please forgive me if I show little patience or tolerance now.</p>

<p>This isn’t a decorous debate about economic policy or whether gays should be allowed to marry, this is about a terrible blunder that will scar this country for decades. </p>

<p>Polite? Considering that my impulse is to grap Busheviks by the collar and slam them up against the nearest wall and ask them what in the bloody blue Pleiades they were thinking, the discourse in this thread has been exceedingly polite.</p>

<p>Oh, dad, we would never expect you to be patient or tolerant!!! And last time I checked, zoosermom wasn’t part of the Bush administration, unless she’s not sharing secrets…hmmmm.</p>

<p>To set the record straight. Just because someone may not support Hildebeast, it doesn’t automatically make them a Bushevik.</p>

<p>“ZM, considering just how thoroughly this so-called administration has trashed and damaged this country, it’s sometimes a bit much to remember to be polite.”</p>

<p>The TOS of this site prefer otherwise. You and I disagree about many things, but you’ve never stooped to the level of some other posters. Although you do manage to make your opinions very clear. How do you explain that? The reference in question was to my asking a poster to clarify something he said. That isn’t attack-worthy.</p>

<p>“, zoosermom wasn’t part of the Bush administration, unless she’s not sharing secrets…hmmmm.”</p>

<p>Nope, not me. And TheDad knows that I hold some remarkably liberal points of view, and also disagree with the Bush administration (vehemently) on many things, such as immigration and the Iraq War.</p>

<p>Oh… I’m sorry…… from what you said I could not tell you knew what you were talking about, and that you were just checking up on me to see if I knew what I was talking about. </p>

<p>You are New York City lawyer quick with your wit and ability to hide just how much you do know</p>

<p>“trashed good men like vet & quadraplegic Max Cleland by morphing him into Osama bin Laden in ads, etc. ad infinitum. I don’t recall any of the Republican voices now whining about politeness objecting to that sort of crap, so please forgive me if I show little patience or tolerance now.”</p>

<p>I’d like to point out to you that I wasn’t posting here then, so I have no record on that with you. I and SJmom are also actual human beings on the other side of the keyboard. Can you personally name a “Bushevik” that you’d like to take on? You know in your real life.</p>

<p>“You are New York City lawyer quick with your wit and ability to hide just how much you do know”</p>

<p>I think you are confusing me with someone else. I am not a lawyer and don’t play one on tv. I really didn’t know what you meant. I sometimes find your posting style difficult to follow. My question to you was posed as I were speaking to you in person, rather than being clarified for the keyboard, so I can understand now why that didn’t come across.</p>

<p>It would be comical were it not so pathetic that the party of O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Coulter, Cheney, etc. objects to a lack of civil discourse.</p>

<p>drb, I think ZM just explained that she doesn’t support the Bush administration in a variety of areas. Did you miss that?</p>

<p>Just as you clump every conservative with Limbaugh, Coulter etc., should we put you at the same table with Ward Churchill, Eli Pariser, Michael Moore, Howard Dean etc? There is as much diversity on the right as there is on the left. Not all conservatives walk in lockstep.</p>

<p>“No, just one if its enablers.”</p>

<p>Upon which of my posts do you base this? Or are you making an assumption? I am a very outspoken critic of the Bush administration, both here and in my actual life. Pathetic? For your information, I am not a party I am a person and I do object to some of the things that have been said to me and other posters this week.</p>

<p>right on…sokkermom</p>

<p>I know a lot of Republicans who are not supporters of Sen. Clinton, but at the same time no longer support the Bush Administration or its policies.</p>