<p>The 4-in-10 and the Bush clan’s rejection of science has resulted in the high proportion of foreigners in our college science classes. As long as foreigners want to attend our schools, and if our immigration laws allow them to stay, we should have a good chance at surviving in this world.</p>
<p>Here’s a rather interesting article on evolution as it has applied to humans for the past 10,000 years, and what implications it holds for the human race, as well as its individual races and ethnicities, in the future:</p>
<p>[They</a> Don’t Make Homo Sapiens Like They Used To | Human Evolution | DISCOVER Magazine](<a href=“http://discovermagazine.com/2009/mar/09-they-dont-make-homo-sapiens-like-they-used-to]They”>http://discovermagazine.com/2009/mar/09-they-dont-make-homo-sapiens-like-they-used-to)</p>
<p>Here are the first couple of paragraphs:</p>
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<p>I recommend reading the whole thing. It’s only five pages, so it’s much shorter than a book. :)</p>
<p>AuburnMathTutor, what do you think about continental drift? </p>
<p>A scientific theory does not need to be able to predict the future to be a valid and useful theory. Take gravity. Give me two objects with non-zero mass in an isolated system, and I can tell you precisely where they will be at any point of time past or future. Give me three objects, and the problem becomes impossible to solve.</p>
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<p>I’d also like to address this line of thought. You mentioned that you can observe the effects of gravity by dropping a ball on the ground. However, can you observe the effect of the pull of the sun on the earth? If not, perhaps you should take gravity less seriously. This is a similar observation request to that of watching a “fish evolving into a mammal.”</p>
<p>Reading discussions like this is extremely discouraging. I am old enough to remember the post-Sputnik era. For you youngsters, let me remind you of the story. We felt that the US was technologically advanced and yet the USSR beat us by launching a satellite before we were able. This was a major event in the space race and cold war relations. As part of the response, the US government took a look at our science programs. An obscure agency, the National Science Foundation, was give resources to develop research and education programs. “New” math and “new” science education programs were developed. The programs including serious funding with textbooks and teacher training. </p>
<p>It is really sad to see that when it comes to science and technology we are still as dumb as bricks.</p>
<p>In the same Science Friday I mentioned earlier, there was a story about whale fossils found in Pakistan that seem to represent whales on the verge of land/sea habitation. The baby was positioned head first - like animals born on land but it was clear that they spent most of their time in the sea. The researcher, from the University of Michigan, said that the discovery had been made in 2000. It has taken this long for the work to be done - both scientifically and politically.</p>
<p>In contrast to the OP, all I can say is: So What?</p>
<p>K-12 education in this country is poor, and K12 science education is even worse. I would surmise that an even greater percentage of common folks don’t believe in Algebra, either.</p>
<p>Al Gebra is a terrorist movement which has reportedly infiltrated American schools, carrying weapons of math instruction. It began at the undergraduate level and has spread to secondary schools, according to former US Attorney General John Ashcroft. Favored targets are said to include homomorphics and people living in polynomial relationships. Academics dismiss the Ashcroft’s accusations as pandering to the lowest common denominator of anti-Arab prejudice. They are known to go by such names as “Mathematical Equations” and “Algebra”. </p>
<p>Sources reveal that al-Gebra uses use secret code names like ‘x’ and ‘y’ and refer to themselves as ‘unknowns’, and the CIA has determined they belong to an axis of medieval with coordinates in every country. Field agents are evaluating rumored links with ring-leaders in the French defunctional Axiom Directe group.</p>
<p>More at [Urban</a> Dictionary, February 12: retro-cringe](<a href=“http://www.urbandictionary.com%5DUrban”>http://www.urbandictionary.com)</p>
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This isn’t true, unless you happen to be unwilling to work with bacteria. It is possible to study bacterial evolution in a lab setting quite productively – a scientist at Michigan State, Richard Lenski, has been running a set of bacterial evolution experiments in his lab for the past 20 years, representing over 45,000 generations of bacteria. His lab site is [url=<a href=“http://myxo.css.msu.edu/index.html]here[/url”>http://myxo.css.msu.edu/index.html]here[/url</a>].</p>
<p>There are also scientists who measure rates of evolutionary change in natural populations over the course of many years, although of course they tend to study things like birds and mammals, who do not go through 45,000 generations in 20 years.</p>
<p>Other scientists measure evolutionary change through changes in DNA sequence. If you compare the sequences of two species, you can calculate how long ago their last common ancestor was alive. It involves a lot of computational effort, but is getting easier as more and more living organisms have their complete genomes published (and dead ones, too – woolly mammoths and Neandertals have both been sequenced).</p>
<p>Any christian that believes evolution, in my opinion, is silly. EVOLUTION DIRECTLY CONTRASTS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. They don’t mesh!!</p>
<p>(I’m very pro-evolution, btw.)</p>
<p>There is a definite rivalry between Christians and evolution. Because evolution has not been proven, the missing link has not been found. It is unprofessional to press issues like this saying it’s fact. Same with the theory of God. obviously that has not been proven. But education is supposed to explain the facts. Since neither is fact, Public schools in the least should teach both evolution and creationism. Obviously, if it’s a private institution they have the choice of teaching what they believe. But to say evolution is fact and that it’s uneducated to disbelieve in it, certainly shows a lack of education in itself</p>
<p>^ Yeah, because evolution certainly doesn’t have as much scientific evidence as a magical genie like bewitched twitching her nose to fabricate objects.</p>
<p>No one knows which one is true, we’ll never know until we’re dead. However, religion is what this country is founded on, so you might want to take your head out of the science book xsteven and read a history book</p>
<p>Yeah, history books definitely give proof for creationism.</p>
<p>Much of science has to do with evidence. There is a preponderance of evidence for evolution, but none for religion. Yes, more seem to believe in religion than evolution, but it’s not because of presence or lack of evidence, respectively.</p>
<p>Alright well since you’re clearly uneducated, we broke off of england to form out own RELIGIOUS beliefs in God and the fact that he created us. I’m not an extremely religious person but I am skeptical for the educational system to teach something that has still not been proven, and not offer the other side that they have been teaching since this country has been founded.</p>
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<p>You might want to, umm, brush up on your U.S. history a bit. </p>
<p>And why should public schools teach creationism? Evolution is a product of science, a conclusion determined from piles and piles of evidence. Creationism is something a book written hundreds of years ago says, with no evidence. What class would you teach creationism in? And more importantly, if creationism in the Judeo-Christian sense, why not all versions of creationism? Every creation story from every civilization, that would be a great use of time in science class. Hell, you could even throw the FSM in there.</p>
<p>“Same with the theory of God. obviously that has not been proven.”</p>
<p>“the fact that he created us”</p>
<p>You can’t have it both ways.</p>
<p>“However, religion is what this country is founded on”</p>
<p>The founding fathers did their best to prevent this. England showed them what a mistake it is to found a country on religion. See the first amendment.</p>
<p>The “So What?” to #47, is it show the lack of education in our country, since the less educated are more likely to believe creationism malarky; the results of these surveys also reflect the pervasiveness of Christian belief in the US.</p>
<p>Americans are much more likely to reject evolution than any other Western country:</p>
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<p>[Evolution</a> Less Accepted in U.S. Than Other Western Countries, Study Finds](<a href=“National Geographic”>National Geographic)</p>
<p>Post #48 about Al Gebera, :D</p>
<p>cartera45, I also heard that Science Friday broadcast (anyone interested can get it free via the Apple Itunes store podcast).</p>
<p>Anyone who doesn’t believe in evolution can just skip their flu shots every year going forward. There certainly is no reputable scientific theory other than evolution that I have heard for changes in the flu virus. We might “natural select” our way out of a population that doesn’t believe in evolution that way!</p>