Opinion on Most Complete University

<p>Why would you say IU-Bloomington?</p>

<p>Quote:
"Wrong. 100% wrong. I grew up near Stanford, so I like to think I know a bit about the region’s weather. </p>

<p>Cal, maybe the weather doesn’t rank so high because it’s close to the actual bay and does get foggy – but Palo Alto is in the SOUTH BAY which is warmer. Rain is average for California; I feel it rains about the same amount in the South Bay as it does in LA. If the Bay Area DOES get a lot of rain, it’s usually around the time students would be home for Winter breaks anyway. Same goes for the temperature – can dip down to the high 40s at night, but this is usually only in December/January and it’s rare."</p>

<p>Check out link for California weather for coldest California cities. [California</a> Climate Extremes](<a href=“http://coolweather.net/extremes/california_climate_extremes.htm]California”>California Climate Extremes)</p>

<p>Salinas is near Palo Alto ( annual average temperature is 57.3) and is listed among the coldest California cities along with Berkeley (57.2), San Francisco (57.2), Santa Cruz (57.1), Santa Maria (57.3), Burlingame (57.0), Monterey (56.6), Watsonville (56.5), Eureka (52.7), and Tahoe (43.3).</p>

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" Chapman is a “nice” school, but it’s hardly academically challenging or renown outside of California. Close friend from high school went there and while she loved her friends, she really disliked the high presence of the Greek system, the lack of “things to do” in Orange (you can’t go to Disneyland all the time…) and her lack of job prospects upon graduation. She also had a really negative opinion of the film program in the end." </p>

<p>Hmmm…Sounds like you haven’t visited Chapman recently or for quite some time. Then, you’ll have a lot to catch up on. Chapman film program is a powerhouse, and has the best state-of-the-art facilities of any film school. Even USC is trying to catch up to Chapman’s standard. In case you haven’t heard, Chapman now has their own film production company; Chapman Entertainment that will make and distribute five to 10 feature films each year, and none of the other schools even have that. Chapman already has plans to build the filmmaker’s village which will include dining facilities and residence halls to house all their film students near the film school so they can have access 24/7. They also have plans to build the Millennial Studios and other projects around the campus such as the Center for the Arts, Cypress Street Law Clinics, Historic Core Classroom Building, and the Science Complex. Recently, they’ve completed the Crean Hall, Psychology Department, with an improved state-of-the-art space. And currently, they’re working on the Argyros Forum Expansion. </p>

<p>In addition to the above, Chapman’s film students are making headlines, “A romantic indie feature wowing audiences at this year’s Sundance Film Festival and co-written by Chapman University alumnus Ben York Jones ’07 has reportedly been bought by Paramount Pictures for $4 million.” How about that for a job prospect? Keep in mind that success is determined by motivation of the individual. Don’t blame a school if one is not motivated.</p>

<p>Check out the Chapman’s list at the Dodge College Blog for other success stories.
[Paramount</a> snags Chapman screenwriter’s new film Happenings](<a href=“http://chapmannews.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2011/01/26/paramount-snags-chapman-screenwriters-new-film/]Paramount”>Paramount snags Chapman screenwriter’s new film | Happenings)
[Ben</a> York Jones and His Chapman Pals Storm Sundance - Orange County News - Navel Gazing](<a href=“http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/01/ben_york_jones_sundance_chapma.php]Ben”>http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/01/ben_york_jones_sundance_chapma.php)</p>

<p>For those of you who have said you’ve never heard of Chapman before, where have you’ve been? LOL. Chapman is ranked among the most trusted brands in the OC Trust Summit and the only university chosen by more than 2,000 respondents who participated in an online survey conducted by the Values Institute, DGWB’s values-based research program. Apparently, there are a lot more people out there who have heard of Chapman than you may think. How’s that for a brand name recognition? </p>

<p>Anyone who questions about how renown Chapman is outside of California, here’s the data from their Class of 2009-2010 list:
Top non-California Areas Represented in the Class of 2009-2010
Domestic: Washington, Colorado, Texas, Oregon, Hawaii, and Massachusetts
International: Japan, Canada, South Korea, Taiwan, and Philippines
[Chapman</a> University - Admission - For HS Counselors - General Information](<a href=“Page Not Found | Chapman University”>Page Not Found | Chapman University)
Chapman is also known internationally by their Singapore satellite campus for their film program. And US News ranks Chapman in the top 8 of the Western Regional Universities. </p>

<p>Anyone with questions on Chapman’s academics should also read this.
"Chapman University’s Athletic Training Education Program (ATEP) boasts a 30-year history of producing hundreds of graduates who are successfully employed as allied healthcare professionals and educators in various settings.</p>

<p>Combining rigorous academic coursework with clinical hands-on experiences, our program prepares students for careers and graduate studies in a variety of fields, including:</p>

<p>Athletic training
Physical or occupational therapy
Physician assistant or medical school
Nursing/nurse practitioner
Healthcare administration and leadership</p>

<p>Chapman students are Exam Champs!
Here’s more evidence that Chapman ATEP graduates excel beyond the national average: 16 out of 16 from the class of 2010 passed the Board of Certification (BOC) exam, 14 of them passed on their first attempt. Our first-attempt pass rate (87.5%) continues to greatly exceed the national average of approximately 50%.</p>

<p>The class of 2010’s stellar performance continues the CU ATEP tradition of success. Since fall 2002, 88% of all Chapman AT graduates have passed the BOC exam–the majority of them doing so with their first attempt. Success with the exam is also linked to placement in graduate schools and employment, which we also track. More than 90% of CU ATEP graduates since 2002 have been accepted to graduate schools and/or secured jobs."
How’s this for a demonstration on how academically challenging Chapman’s programs are.</p>

<p>Quote:
“Also, Chapman isn’t a sports-heavy school and I don’t see it being much of a “school spirit” university like a lot of the other names being thrown around.”</p>

<p>Chapman is now a D3 SCIAC sports program. There are a lot of other excellent D3 schools out there like Chapman such as Carnegie Mellon, Case Western Reserve, Johns Hopkins, Pomona-Pitzer, just to name a few. You don’t need to be a D1 school to be an excellent school. Chapman has an excellent baseball team. They just finished their NCAA D3 Championships and came in 2nd place. Chapman has a lot of talented student athletes in the other sports as well.
[Chapman</a> Athletics](<a href=“http://www.chapmanathletics.com/landing/index]Chapman”>Chapman)</p>

<p>Well I’ve narrowed it down to 5 schools. Here’s my top 5.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Stanford - I love it, but I’m gonna be realistic here, they only accept around 25 transfers a year. So I’m pretty much screwed.</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan/Texas - Couldn’t really decide here. This is probably the choice I’m going to have to make. About the same for sports although Texas has had more recent success, just one down year for Texas football. Maybe now that Rich is gone Michigan will improve. Texas has much better weather and a better city, but Mich has slightly better academics. Don’t get me wrong Texas has great academics, but Mich is slightly higher. One knock on Michigan for me is lack of petroleum engineering, which I’ll probably major in. UT is top for that. I like Michigan’s 5 year bba/engineering. Michigan would also be much more expensive for me. Texas for sure has better weather, but is also much farther from home. I’m from Pittsburgh. </p></li>
<li><p>USC - Good academics but not top notch for my interests (engineering and business). Good sports although I wish football and basketball would improve. Good weather but it’s in a bad area. I’d also struggle to afford it.</p></li>
<li><p>UNC - Good sports especially basketball, but lack of engineering hurts it for me. Weather I wouldn’t mind.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Ok, Mr. Chapman, we get it. You love the school.</p>

<p>And yet, I’m going to bet that people that aren’t from Cali have probably never even
heard of it.</p>

<p>Which kind of invalidates the purpose of this thread.</p>

<p>@Cgeresti: That’s a good list. I think the weather factor can be somewhat subjective so I guess we can add Michigan for those people that prefer the cold.</p>

<p>@Lonesoul Why do you want to end the thread? It hasn’t derailed just yet. We still have a good page and half left before it does–I think. Lol. </p>

<p>@PurpleDuckMan I’ll admit, I was in a dark place when I said Iowa. Haha. My saying that was based off what others had said previously in this thread. I don’t know if what they say is true, but I do think that it’s a school that doesn’t get the credit it deserves.</p>

<p>Other than that, I say Northwestern for the class-size, location and network. I say Wisconsin for biology, premed and sports that are very consistently better than Michigan in recent years. I say Purdue because it is a hidden gem in terms of engineering and if I were going to be an engineer, I might choose it over Michigan in some situations. Stanford is pretty sound in all of the things that these schools have over Michigan. None of these schools are “more complete” than Michigan, but they have things that it lacks. Don’t get me wrong, Michigan is a jack-of-all-trades, but it’s only a “master” of business.</p>

<p>On Vanderbilt: I know a brilliant guy who got accepted to Wisconsin premed scholars program but decided to go to Vanderbilt instead. He HATED it there, and ended up coming back to Wisconsin to go through premed the hard way. It probably didn’t help that he was Muslim. I don’t know if I trust some of these Southern schools to be the bastions of diversity and acceptance that they advertise. It may not so much be the school as the culture down there. But I’m not going to say anymore. </p>

<p>On Chapman: I’ve never heard of it, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be a well-rounded school. Being great at film, though, makes it more of a specialty school, no? Plenty of schools have great athletic programs at the D3 level, for what it’s worth, but do you really want to compare the school spirit at Chapman to that of Michigan and its peers? </p>

<p>Again: What about Notre Dame?</p>

<p>I think it’s the whole living in Indiana that kills ND.</p>

<p>Wow I completely forgot about Notre Dame. They’re very expensive also. How’s engineering?</p>

<p>I know Mendoza is a great business school.</p>

<p>Well, Indiana itself is a little barren. But remember that that entire part of the country (Southeastern Wisconsin through Northern Indiana) is almost like one big metropolis centered in Chicago. I don’t think it’d be like living on the moon or something. There would be things to do.</p>

<p>I’ve only been to West Bend once, but it’s pretty nice. I guess the Catholic affiliation might turn some people off, but the network is fantastic. I think Notre Dame alums almost go out of their way to make sure their fellow alums have a job. </p>

<p>I don’t really know about engineering. My suspicion would be that it’s nothing special because I think a lot of in-staters choose Purdue over ND for that.</p>

<p>Ok this is off topic but I’m gonna ask. Looking for a school with good engineering, preferably petroleum but if not its ok I’ll get a masters in eng for it, a good business where I can dual major in 5 years at a reasonable tuition.</p>

<p>“Ok this is off topic but I’m gonna ask. Looking for a school with good engineering, preferably petroleum but if not its ok I’ll get a masters in eng for it, a good business where I can dual major in 5 years at a reasonable tuition.”</p>

<p>What about your state university?</p>

<p>You might look at Texas A&M or the University of Oklahoma.</p>

<p>Petroleum Eng. is fairly niche Eng. degree that is only really offered in the Midwest/SW.</p>

<p>I’d go to UT personally.</p>

<p>I don’t think Penn State offers just a general business degree. I’m not planning on using this as a career, just for knowledge before I get an mba.</p>

<p>Chapman bro needs to settle down. Unless you’re from the Bay Area too, dude, you really can’t judge the weather off averages you find on the Internet. I was at Cal in May and it was 80 degrees. The weather averages mid 60s to high 50s around late September through March/April and the fog burns off by noon. </p>

<p>57 is not cold, especially when it’s sunny; it gets that cold in Anaheim/Orange, too! When you compare 57 against the negative temperatures of schools in colder areas, 57 is a day at the beach. </p>

<p>Original poster: are you International? If not, many of these schools offer good scholarships and a few are extremely generous with need-based aid. I would apply to the schools that interest you most and see what kind of money they give you if you are accepted. If I would have ruled out USC as an UG on sticker price, I would have missed out on the school’s near full ride they gave me.</p>

<p>I’m not international, I’m from PA. I’m attending Penn State I’m the fall but they’re really strict on double majoring.</p>

<p>Why not do a dual degree?</p>

<p>

Then you don’t need a double major or dual degree. Just take some business courses as electives.</p>

<p>@lonesoul, I didn’t realize you saying "let’s all be friends and hold hands around a camp fire. /endpost " meant I wasn’t allowed to post anymore…</p>

<p>Did you honestly think you we’re gonna stop this thread? </p>

<p>wolverine? Really? And yes I know wolverine means glutton. The animals a beast and just doesn’t give a **** about anything.</p>

<p>@OCELITE, add me to the group that has never heard of Chapman…</p>

<p>And as much as I lived you recruiting pitch for it… if I haven’t heard of it, it must not be that good at engineering, so I don’t really care…</p>

<p>@Wiscongene, I don’t think Purdue is that hidden, I think most people know they are good at engineering. That being said I think the only situation you pick it over Michigan is $. Like if you lived in Indiana and couldn’t afford Umich (45k+) than I could see going to Purdue. And maybe Purdue has some niche engineering that Michigan doesn’t.</p>

<p>Wisconsin sports may have been better recently, but enjoy it whole it lasts. And by sports I mean football.</p>

<p>(Remember when you were up like 21-3the on us at half and we came back won? That season we went 3-8? Lol)</p>

<p>“Michigan is a jack-of-all trades but its only a ‘master’ of business”…</p>

<p>Nuh uh man, Top 5 engineering programs says otherwise.</p>

<p>@CGeresti, you sure you wanna do petroleum? I realize its the highest paid now buy how much longer is that really gonna last? And why do you want a BBA and engineering degree? Why not get engineering now and an MBA later?</p>

<p>Also, if you really want to do petroleum engineering and Texas is cheaper for you then I’d go there.</p>

<p>@PurpleDuckMan yeah my only worry is job security. That’s why I thought about civil as undergrad and petroleum as masters,</p>

<p>IMHO, It would make little sense to do civil in UG and then Petr. as a masters.</p>