opinions on Monday night CNN dem debate (reprise)

<p>Can you believe that Edwards is in his 50s?!! I thought he was like 40. haha. I dont even care what hillary is about, i just dont like her. Shes sooooo cocky. Nothing against women, but she should be so cocky if America has never had a woman pres. I think we should start an anti-Clinton, pro-edwards/kucinich/gravel campaign and envelop the CC. We can tell people that colleges like it when people are politically active. I’m sure that CCers will listen then!</p>

<p>*she shouldnt be so cocky</p>

<p>Re Post #101</p>

<p>How about an Official CC Straw Poll?</p>

<p>We know Hillary Clinton has at least one vote! :D</p>

<p>getup01: Yeah, hard to believe. He just doesn’t seem to age. What’s up with that? </p>

<p>Hey sokkermom, I’m up for an Official CC Straw Poll. Good idea. You go first.</p>

<p>I’ll go first. I’m leaning towards voting for Fred Thompson in the Massachusetts primary.</p>

<p>Edwards…</p>

<p>Too bad teh Dems are getting pushed into supporting a dynasty. What is it about the American democracy that promotes dynasties–over say the UK system?</p>

<p>Article in the Times labels Bill Clinton: Chairman Clinton. Fair enough. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/william_rees_mogg/article2224527.ece[/url]”>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/william_rees_mogg/article2224527.ece&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Mentor Minister Clinton?
Senior Minister Clinton?
The Singapore model.
The UK keeps their dynasties in the ‘just for show’ pile- so everyone thinks it is simply ‘entitlement.’ The US and Singapore…well, at least there is the facade of ‘merit.’</p>

<p>ID: Haha. Right.</p>

<p>Okay, yeah, Edwards for me, too.</p>

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<p>I’m serious. I voted for Pat Buchanan in the primary here. I’m a registered Independent so I can grab whichever ballot I want to.</p>

<p>If the Democratic race is settled by the time Mass rolls around, imwithfred. What the heck, the guy can’t go more than 8 minutes in a stump speech and is now on his third campaign manager in two weeks, without even being in the race.</p>

<p>The third guy Bill Lacey was hired today. His last big outing was serving as Bob Dole’s political director in 1996 until Dole lost the New Hampshire primary. </p>

<p>He had this ringing endorsement of his new boss Fred:</p>

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<p>Uh… OK. Sure sounds Presidential to me.</p>

<p>Sokkermom (registered Independent) - Undecided in General election</p>

<p>NH Primary vote - will not be Clinton. (Voted for Edwards in last NH primary, because I thought he was much cuter than Kerry. :))</p>

<p>Many people I know in NH will be voting for Obama in the primary. If Hillary doesn’t do well in NH, it could disrupt her strategy. That may be a good thought.</p>

<p>Another Edwards supporter here. I think I may agree with Kucinich more on some issues, but overall I think Edwards is a better candidate.</p>

<p>For purposes of the caucuses, Kucinich here.</p>

<p>In the general, my vote doesn’t count, so I’ll see who the third party people are. But I will favor any of the Dems except Hillary over any of the Reps, would CAMPAIGN for Hillary against Gingrich if I thought it would make a difference (in my state it wouldn’t), and would favor Hillary if I found out she was a dupe rather than an accessory to genocide and the Big Lie of 1998.</p>

<p>As a side note, I think that Mexican dude would make a great Vice Pres or Sec. of something. I feel bad for this guy- he’s supposed to be one of the top 4 candidates, but no one EVER talks about him. </p>

<p>Sorry mini, but if it came down to it (hypothetically) I would have to go with Ron Paul over Hillary, just because Ron Paul is a rebel and I hate Hillary. </p>

<p>Im kind of mad that Gore didnt run. I think he would have won over Illinois, even though Illinois is already Obama and Hillary Clinton’s “state.” When he came to Chicago, there were basically riots. </p>

<p>I have two questions: Does anyone here favor FairTax or Direct Democracy? (both are supported by Gravel)</p>

<p>This Saturday will be the Republican straw poll in Iowa…I expect it to be “the” political news story on the Sunday talk shows and for the first part of the week……</p>

<p>In order to help prepare all of us on CC to better understand the straw poll and its results I suggest everyone read this news article </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080701730.html[/url]”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080701730.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>What time is the Dem debate tonight on the Logo channel? That should be fun to watch (since all the Dem candidates–with the exception of Kucinich?–have weaseled around support for gay marriage).</p>

<p>Well, certainly, no one could ever accuse the Republican candidates of “weaseling” around their view of gay marriage. That’s for sure.</p>

<p>Like Kucinich, Gravel also supports gay marriage, I believe.</p>

<p>No, they don’t weasel–they’re just straight-up against it!</p>

<p>I actually thought Edwards was the most upfront about his feelings about it at the CNN debate, which I respected him for. :)</p>

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<p>My point exactly. ;)</p>

<p>Edwards is upfront about his view; Elizabeth has actually been pretty firm and upfront in her stance, too-- she’s always been for gay marriage.</p>

<p>At last, here is Hillary’s answer to how she will fund her “Build America infrastructure (jump on the Minneapolis Bridge disaster bandwagon) Program”.
(Discussed way back around post #81)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/FOSTERS01/108090345[/url]”>http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/FOSTERS01/108090345&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>"Clinton didn’t outline where she’d get the money to pay for everything, but she said: "It’s time to stop asking how we can afford to fix our infrastructure and start asking how can we afford not to. "</p>

<p>She pretty much gave the same answer as I-dad. :rolleyes:
That sure answers the question.</p>