<p>“which draws the best grad students”</p>
<p>That, you see, is a different forum, anyhow, that’s why I don’t see that research should be such a big player in an undergrad choice.</p>
<p>uchicago in tier one? hmmm</p>
<p>I don’t think so. Grad students are key for many students to getting a great education. I mean, if you’re getting only so-so grad students in sections/discussions, how can you get a quality education?</p>
<p>Devil May Cry, one of Duke’s strengths is law school placement. If I am not mistaken, Duke is 4th (behind H,P and Y) in the nation at placing students into top Law schools. I am sure you are aware of this. And if I recall, you are planning to major in Economics. You are definitely in great shape. Good luck to you…and who knows, you may respect Michigan a little more one day…as an alum of its Law school! hehe</p>
<p>UCLari, I’d actually rather have a subpar TA academically that knows English really well, as to an extremely qualified TA who doesn’t know English that well lol</p>
<p>that being said, good point</p>
<p>Hmm…depends on the field, but yeah. I’ve had some superstar TAs that it got frustrating when the English was only passable. That said, I never had a TA whose English was that bad, and the worst I had was in Mandarin class. Oh well, not like I used English anyway!</p>
<p>hmm… why isnt Michigan ahead of stanford/harvard/yale/mit/princeton ??? …</p>
<p>Alexandre, I truly apologize if I seemed so ungrateful to Umich. You have opened my eyes a great deal and have changed my outlook towards it a great deal. Quite frankly, I would be honored to attend law school there.</p>
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<p>Simple, and I think Alexandre will agree with me on this: That’s quite simply a class unto itself.</p>
<p>I had two TAs at Michigan that spoke horrendous English. But that was in 1992. Since then, I understand Michigan has instituted a rule that limits TAships to people who can communicate adequately. I hope they are enforcing it. However, for the most part, I had excellent TAs, and in about 80% of my classes, I did not even have TAs leading the smaller discussion groups. Since I placed out of Calculus and intro to College writing, I never had a TA led class at Michigan.</p>
<p>"Group III:
Boston College
Case Western</p>
<p>Group IV:
Tufts
William and Mary"</p>
<p>Absurd. No way can BC especially be rated higher than Tufts.</p>
<p>JoshB, I am not sure what you are asking. Did I ever claim that Michigan should be ranked ahead of H,M,P,S and Y?</p>
<p>no, i was being sarcastic… i just consider your groupings to be ridiculous</p>
<p>DMC, yeah Alexandre is right. UMich has one of the best law schools in the nation. </p>
<p>Anyway, on another note, I actually prefer how Alexandre uses groupings instead of rankings. It appears to be more accurate in the sense that the difference in quality between rank #6 and rank #13 is practically irrelevant.</p>
<p>hahahaha the one post with chicago being placed in group I with HYPSM was really funny. chicago is good, but not NEARLY that good. the couple kids i know who are going there next year were rejected from all the ivies they applied to (even cornell).</p>
<p>with regard to UPenn, it seems there are two groups of people: people that know how awesome it is, and people who are misinformed and egregiously underrate it (the “is that a state school” people, who actually do exist on cc. although they know its not a state school, they seem to think it is state school-quality). although i agree that USNWR’s ranking of #4 is a bit excessive.</p>
<p>Group I:
HYPSM</p>
<p>Group II:
UPENN
Columbia
Caltech
Berkeley
Swarthmore</p>
<p>Group III:
etc, nobody cares…</p>
<p>Wow…lol no.</p>
<p>Group II without Dartmouth, Duke, Cornell, Brown, Northwestern, etc? Naw man…nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.</p>
<p>Rankings revised:</p>
<p>Group I
HYPMS
Group II
Columbia, Duke, Dartmouth,
Group XII
Penn</p>
<p>sorry shoulda added dartmouth and duke. those names didnt quickly pop into my head. but i stand by not putting cornell, brown, and northwestern in there.</p>
<p>and penn is firmly in group II. its rise is, yes, spearheaded by Wharton, and with Wharton it drags talent for alot of other fields as well (with the fish hook of a possible dual with wharton).</p>
<p>haha…yuh you’re right. I was kidding</p>
<ol>
<li>HYPSM, Cal</li>
<li>Columbia, Duke, Penn</li>
<li>JHU, Northwestern, Chicago, Dmouth</li>
</ol>
<p>I don’t know much about UC’s</p>
<p>Arguably, UCLA is at the very least a Group III school, if not Group II.</p>