@PurpleTitan The reference to “admit rates” seems much more relevant to American universities where you apply to the college/university. In the case of Oxbridge, the admit rates differ dramatically between subjects (and between colleges). The same is true of LSE. While there are aggregate numbers, given that in the UK you are admitted to read a specific subject, few people pay attention to them. When I have counselled sixth formers, we spend as much time discussing college as we do the university.
@exlibris97: “Conditional” would mean you are in if you met the minimum requirements.
I don’t see why that is worrying.
I still cannot see them combining conditional and unconditional data. Unless they do it after results are posted, in which case what they are doing is comparing confirmed offers.
In any event, I’ve emailed UCAS, referencing the Telegraph story, and asked for the associated data. It will be interesting if they make it available. And to satisfy my curiosity, I’ve emailed the President of my old Oxford college, who I know well, and asked if they would make available admit rates by subject by residency status, along with the number of students who accept their confirmed offers. I’m somewhat doubtful he will agree.
well, technically ‘conditional’ means that you are in if you meet the conditions set, which can actually result in having to provide more than the minimum (often the language refers to ‘typical’ offers, which gives them wiggle room), though it will never be for anything more than the applicant is predicted to achieve.
@collegemom3717 Agree. I interpreted ‘minimum requirements’ to mean the terms of the offer, not the minimum grades required to qualify for admission. I’ve seen colleges make different offers for students applying to read the same subject. This is especially true for overseas students. Trinity College Cambridge typically requires Americans to offer 5 APs (all at “5”). Kings College claims to only require 3 APs, even though it is well known that you won’t get in with just 3 APs. Hence the difference between ‘minimum’ and ‘actual’ offers.
also, @exlibris97 part of what you asked for is available [online[/url] (offers by residency status). Students who accept ‘confirmed’ offers is a little confusing to me: do you mean students who accept unconditional offers? There is also [url=<a href=“https://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1723941%5Da”>https://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1723941]a trove of stats](https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-statistics/undergraduate?wssl=1) which is now 5+ years old, but gives a lot of interesting data that probably hasn’t changed much.