Parents of the HS Class of 2017 (Part 1)

My kid’s school is not very diverse, mostly mid-upper income white kids in the burbs. That being said, my son is friendly with a lot of different types of kids, from jocks to geeks, white, black, indian, asian, euro, etc. He loves being part of the Model UN group and learning about different cultures. My son isn’t a very preppy kid, he is sort of a surfer/snow culture kind of guy, when he’s not dressed in sweatpants/sports jock outfit.

When I took him to some traditional NE liberal arts types of schools and he just didn’t dig the vibe. I don’t think too traditional and preppy will work for him for 4 years. Too whitebread.
His favorite place was BU, where there were all types of kids, studying different stuff. I don’t know if he’ll end up going there ( probably not), but that was a place where he definitely felt he fit in.

Regarding summer work, son17 is trying to get his AP stuff out of the way before writing his essay. He’ll finish AP stuff by 8/20 and then will have 10 days or so to get his essay done for the start of school.


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Those with kids starting school already, arrghhhh. I am no ready for another year to start yet.

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@STEM2017 I really feel for you. I know we will be going through that when he starts the essays. But my S17 has only just gotten started on this application process. He has online heath & AP Physics homework to get through in the next week. At least 1/2 of S17’s schools don’t even need an essay.

Unfortunately 2 of the essays are really now “Insight” short answer. Both harder & easier to write. At least these Insight questions aren’t so open ended, but then they really DO require they write about themselves.

@@2muchquan I like that link, too. Interestingly, I think all of the top choices on dd’s see themselves as peers.

INTRO … I’ve been lurking on this thread since January, but my S17’s stats fit the “Parents of the HS Class of 2017 - 3.0 to 3.4 GPA” thread.

He won’t qualify for need-based aid & his stats won’t qualify him for merit-based aid @ the majority of U’s to which he’s applying. His list (in alpha order) appears to have 2 safeties, 5 maybes, 2 reaches:
Appalachian State U, Christopher Newport U, East Carolina U, James Madison U, Ohio U, Old Dominion U, U of South Carolina, Towson U, West Virginia U.

S17 completed his C/A essay & 1 other essay (the same essay, just modified to fit the 500 vs 650 word requirement). He’s started the C/A for the 4 U’s that take it. He also started 2 other applications via their websites, but apparently each is (2017) or will be (2018) part of the Coalition App. Only realized this at the end of the 2nd app, which cleared up the mystery of how the 2nd U already knew his SSN!

His AP Lit summer assignment consists of reading & annotating 4 books: The Secret History, The Kite Runner, The Trouble With Poetry, and How To Read Literature Like A Professor (he has 1 more to go). His AP US & Comparative Government summer assignment consists of reading the US Constitutions & completing a study guide, including vocabulary words, for 2 tests the 1st week of school. School begins 8/29, but marching band camp (3 weeks) begins 8/8. Between vacation, college visits, being a camp counselor, band camp … there just isn’t time for everything that’s required – well, except for computer gaming :slight_smile:

@curiositycat333 Everything I know about CC I learned from their website (and the small write up in Fiskes). However I have spent more time on their website that any other school. It is laid out really well and has tons on neat information on it. And the school just does some really cool things. You sign up your classes by auction. Each student and each teacher has one class at a time, so if it is astronomy the times might be from 11pm to 2am for 3 1/2 weeks, or if it is american politics it might mean 3.5 weeks in DC etc. It appears they are very community oriented. The write up on their site about the New Student Orientation (Priddy Experience) sounds amazing https://www.coloradocollege.edu/offices/outdooreducation/priddy-experience/program-overview/index.html

But like I said I think it is very selective and they want kids who really want to be there and can prove they have something to offer the college and community in return.

@RightCoaster Is you son’s name Ferris? The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he’s a righteous dude.

D17 arrived in Philadelphia last night. Other than a 3 word text saying she landed I have had to deduce from her snap chat story that my friend who is hosting her did indeed find her at the airport, get her to her house, and to the lab this morning. Other than that I have not heard a peep.

@2muchquan Thats a fun link! I plugged in a few schools and had to giggle at one particular result:

94Colleges selected as peers by this college
10Colleges that selected this college as a peer
1Peer colleges that also chose this college as a peer

I still have 15 pages to catch up on, but I have to answer one of the QOTD
What school would you choose: I went to UC Santa Cruz and would go back even though they give grade now. I loved the environment and the academics. I would go to Lewis and Clark. It has a beautiful campus and I really enjoy Portland, even though it gets gloomy in the winter (and fall and spring). Princeton is also on the list, but I wouldn’t get in. I’m a slacker compared to today’s kids.

@Dolemite ha, he would like to be Ferris. He has all sorts of friends,but he’s pretty shy and quiet. He did get voted “player with best swag” though this spring,lol

Pitt review:

Quick review of our quick trip to Pitt last weekend (finally). The Pitt trip was mostly just to confirm that we should keep it on the list. The Neuroscience curriculum seems great, and there is an entire department focused on it, so it is not as cobbled together as some programs. It was more of a trip to see if she liked the campus setting and feel.

Driving through Pittsburgh, I was surprised how pretty a city and area it is. It’s a little difficult to negotiate with all the road entrances and exits we had to maneuver, and the traffic. No grid in Pittsburgh! Driving onto the campus D was kind of quietly looking around. I felt she was forming an initial negative opinion, and I was right. Campus is dissected by a few busy streets (Fifth and Forbes Ave.) as you drive in. Very urban, but pretty.

We came into town in the early evening, after driving from tOSU event earlier that day. We checked in at the Wyndham Pittsburgh University Center, right on campus. Went to eat dinner at The Porch at Schenley Park. Thanks to whomever suggested it, the food was great and there was a concert going on in the park. We had just left Chicago and Lollapalooza, so this was our own little Lolla. After eating we walked around the park and toured the Cathedral of Learning, which you see on all the Pitt PR material.

In the morning we headed over to the Soldiers and Sailors Memorial Hall, where I guess Pitt holds the really large admissions events, which this was. It was beginning to rain, which was a bummer. The Pitt Path Finders were everywhere! They must have had 100 kids in their goofy polos herding families around. The opening speaker was terrific. Very funny……unless you ask D. He was like a standup comedian, and got the crowd going. All the followup speakers were just OK, but it ended up being a good info session.

We then got sent out into the now-pouring rain to do a campus tour. D wanted to do the tour first, since she figured no one else would want to tour in the rain……and she was pretty much right. Had a very good guide for about 8 of us. Showed us some academic buildings, the Heinz Chapel where many grads get married, the Cathedral of Learning, the main Library, and a dorm in the Litchfield Towers. I was like, uh oh! When we walked into the dorm room. The Tower is a round building, and rooms were pie-shaped. It seemed very cramped to me, but she liked it. Go figure. These rooms were doubles with a communal bathroom in the center of the circle. Many other housing choices around lower and ‘upper’ campus, which was up a hill. There were separate tours to upper campus, but we never went up there. It is mostly housing for several LLCs (including an Honors LLC), as well as athlete housing and athletic buildings. I forget now, but I think there were Honors floors at several dorms. One new dorm (as of 2013) looked really nice, and had split male/female floors like I had in college. That’s the one I would target!

After the campus tour (still pouring…even harder) we did an Academic session at the Union. This was a waste of time, where they went over several majors and departments. They had the usual student panel, but the information was not relevant for us, and we left early

After that we grabbed lunch back at Litchfield Towers, which was provided by Pitt. Sandwiches/pizza/salads and desserts. It was a nice little spread and plenty of room to spread out since students were not really there. The cafeteria seemed pretty nice.

After lunch we decide to forego any more sessions and head over to the admissions building, where we ask for a Path Finder who was a Neuroscience major. We were directed to a girl who just finished her sophomore year, and she was super helpful in talking to my D and exchanging emails. She loved her Pitt.

After this we checked out and headed over to Carnegie Mellon for a little drive around campus (still raining) and through Schenley park. Then, 7 hours home!

In the end, D really liked Pitt despite her initial poor reaction. She liked the Path Finders, and the $25/season football tickets, and free public transportation downtown, and concerts in the park, the diversity, and just generally ‘things to do’. There were A LOT of Pennsylvania kids, which isn’t a surprise. The next majority is from anywhere on the east coast. Not a ton of Midwest and westerners. It stays on the list, albeit not the top.

I think S’s school is an outlier with regard to (non) diversity :)) This is not scientific, but based on his class of 120-ish kids:

99+% white
<1% Hispanic/Latino

However, he really doesn’t care one way or another about the racial makeup of his college. His summer camp friends are all cultures and backgrounds and he’s always way more concerned with their knowledge of his favorite show/game/activity than anything.

Ditto.
Or DS fails to graduate HS because he cannot take (maybe due to schedule conflict) a one-term Technology (IT) class.

Assuming DS submits An application and graduates:
Goes to CU-Boulder with scholarships, loses them due to bad grades, wants to live in a super expensive 70-year old Boulder fixer house with 3 roommates (that gets flooded during once in 100 year flood, This Happened to neighborhood Kids) rather than simply living at home and take the free bus/bike/even drive to CU.
I know realtors who market kiddie condos in Boulder. You do not want to know the housing rates in Boulder, yet.

@MichiganGeorgia …I keep reading about GT and Georgia schools and in fact tried to politely and quietly warn a friend whose kid says he wants to apply there. They would be OOS also and I know for a fact they cannot pay full up OOS.

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Thank you @2muchquan. Sounds like a great fit for my D. We’re both really looking forward to visiting.

The peers link is very cool!

Ole Miss apparently sees itself as one of a kind. :))

I can’t find the official demographics on our school, but based on conversations with the school staff over the years, it is 1/3 white, 1/3 Asian, and 1/3 African American. Small Hispanic population as well, but the school is almost evenly split among the other three groups. D has visited a few LACs that were just too white for her, so diversity is something she notices and cares about, but it isn’t a determining factor.

Interesting discussion on the vaccines. D just got the second meningococcal vaccine today, but we didn’t hear anything about the Trumenba vaccine.

Same is true for my daughter in 250+ marching band. Not the only blond. But hers is almost white so it stands out. Particularly in black and white photo which is used for programs for games and band festivals. The band festival pictures typically are not great quality copies but its easy to spot my daughter.

My son actually was very proactive about getting his HPV vaccine about which I was very proud. My daughter was more reluctant because she hates shots! Son’s doc recommended against the new meningitis B vaccine. Says there’s really very little of that strain around and the experts are saying it’s not necessary.

Our worst case scenario is probably that DS only gets into state flagship which really would not be that bad – students seem to love it, he would likely get merit money, and they are strong in his area of academic interest. He doesn’t want to stay in state, however, and I worry that he might get lost in such a large school. Bigger worry is that he has pushed himself and done so well the last few years and this might be a huge blow to his self-confidence and it would be hard to start college with those feelings. Of course, lots of people only get into their safety so it’s certainly not the worst problem to have.