LOL, @OrangeFish!
@homerdog, thank you!
I am in the process of starting the list. Initially, we were targeting UCs. After reading through many threads, I realized that we need to cast a wider net for various reasons like possible FA, admission to the desired major. It is going to be a long day for sure with all those variables ~X(
Ugh. So after saying no I am considering the French Sat II. For many of the LACâs it does either allow them to test out, or serve as a placement test so might be worth it.
I donât know that the math will ever be needed but now would be the time to do it. UGH. LOL
@collegeandi - yes some schools give credit for SAT IIâs alone. Look back at my post a few pages ago.
@eandesmom Say it isnât so! Credit for the French SAT 2? Ugh! Silver lining - maybe that means S19 doesnât have to take AP French senior year and take AP to get college credit? Maybe he can just take French 4 honors next year, take SAT 2 and pass out? Iâm checking into that!
@homerdog not credit per-se. Many LACâs require a FL be taken for graduation, the SAT 2 at some can waive that requirement. It doesnât lessen the credits needed for graduation, just means they might not have to take FL in college.
My S19 will just shop around for a B.S. program that doesnât require foreign language (shouldnât be hard to find) before he ever takes a 4th year of French. The kid really dislikes French. Even his girlfriend canât convince him to take another year.
His list will likely include âPublic Universities within a 6 hour drive from DCâ and will exclude competitive places that wonât want him, like UVA, UNC, William & Mary, and might include a school or two like RIT. If he needs an SAT II for any of these schools, that will be news to us!
@collegeandi â Iâve found the search tool at collegeboard helpful as a starting point. https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org â you can sort with a ton of variables and use the sliders to pick âmust haveâ or âwantâ etc⊠see how the list sorts out each time. Then I use collegedata to get nitty gritty details as needed.
And the advice from others - to establish a âcollegeâ email to use as log-on IDs and to give out to colleges and all the websites youâll sign up for â with you and your kid both having the pwd - was invaluable.
http://www.as.pitt.edu/fac/teaching/general-requirements see #8
I think if you had three years of same high school foreign language, with a B or better, Pitt school of Arts and Sciences doesnât require more foreign language.
We are with you @eh1234 - D19 will Absolutely Not take another year of Latin. We are also looking at public unis within a 6-7 hour drive of DC, excluding UVA, W&M, and probably VaTech. D19 is looking at BS and BFA programs, though. The current list of schools (30+!) has no SAT II requirements.
For languages both of my kids took a language in 2 years of middle school ( which counted towards 1 year oh HS), and then thru junior year, so 4 years total. My son17 used the time slot senior year o take another business class he wanted to try. None of the colleges he applied to needed 4 years of HS language.
Son19 likes Spanish, he has a group of friends in his class and they study together to make it more fun.
@eh1234 It is unlikely S19 will need SAT2 in your case.
@collegeandi I meant AP or SAT2, not AP with SAT2.
As @eandesmom says, some schools will waive FL or elective requirements with SAT2. AP is even better since they will give credit as well.
I was thinking of Spanish SAT2 because S17 has not taken AP Spanish.
He has taken APUSH (got 4) so he does not need SAT2 History for U Texas system credit.
You post #2143 is very helpful, @MichiganGeorgia. Thank you!
@Gatormama, thank you for making the whole procedure much much simpler for me.
D19 was planning to take CLEP after finishing third year FL to check if she can pass it. She is definitely not going for AP. Now, I am going to suggest her to take SATII. She will know what to do.
She wants to be an engineer. H and I are looking for public universities at 4-6 hours driving from our place in CA. She is ready to go all the way to east coast, public or private, or abroad if she gets substantial FA (not loans). Ultimately, we all agreed on a financial cap for our contribution. I need to start preparing myself to let her go that farâŠ
Ok. I got it. Iâm ok with S19 not getting college credit for French. Passing out of the requirement could still be good, though, whether itâs with SAT 2 or AP. Some of the colleges on our list waive the requirement with a 4 or 5 on the AP. Thatâs as much investigation as Iâve done so far. I just need to see if an SAT 2 would also waive the requirement.
These are almost all LACs that would require some sort of FL no matter what the major. Some non-LACs on our list (like Wake Forest) require you take one whole year of a language at the college. If you take AP French and do well, it just means you move up to a different level of French for that requirement. Or you could just start a new language.
Iâm not completely against S19 taking French in college. I took four years of college German and my husband took four years of college French and we got a lot out of those classes. With S19 be pretty undecided at this point, though, it would be good to keep all options open for waiving graduation requirements in case heâs not interested in more FL.
Thank you so much, @payn4ward for clarifying that. I will definitely talk to D19 about it. She wants to try many different courses rather than another year in the same FL.
the nice thing is that at a LAC it does not have to be the same language so, if they would prefer, it could be a new one. S19 will not take AP French so might take the SAT II for the language option but I think we will skip the rest as AP tests will suffice for any math placement needs or other waivers or credits and he will have plenty of those.
Amusement from the past week: So, D19 is already getting college emailsâsheâs signed up for information from various sources, since sheâs interested in a few not-terribly-widely-offered fieldsâand this past week she received one congratulating her on her admission to the Oregon Institute of Technology (followed the next day by an âOops!â retraction). Her reaction was that if they wanted to offer her a guaranteed admission as a high school sophomore she wasnât going to argue against it, but it did make her doubt the rigor of the admissions process thereâŠ
So in the last couple months, d19 has had competitions at a couple of colleges. They arenât ones on our radar, but itâs been a good experience to get a little idea of types of things that do and donât matter to her.
One thing she is set on (based on being at competitions with them) is that she doesnât want to tour colleges with friends. She thinks they are looking for different things in colleges and hearing their opinions criticizing things she feels are fine/good will annoy her and stress her out more.
She was at SUNY Brockport for one. Her biggest complaint was that she didnât like âa main road going right through campusâ. Apparently when going from one building to another, she had to wait in the cold for cars to pass by before she could cross the street.
At LeMoyne (small, Catholic), she wasnât comfortable with the crosses on walls in classrooms. She had already decided she didnât want catholic colleges (we are catholic BTW) because she didnât want required religion classes but I actually hadnât even realized the crosses on walls would even be noticed. She was also super unimpressed by the food at that one.
Sheâs been to St. John Fisher in the past for competitions and liked it. Possibly she wasnât thinking in terms of evaluating colleges so she didnât notice crosses on walls or possibly they donât have them in classrooms but she never mentioned them. She enjoyed the food there in the dining hall and did like how the campus was set up.
Itâs fun to hear her start to develop some opinions. We were watching some YouTube thing and she saw Princeton had eating clubs. She was really interested in that, even after researching and finding out that they arenât really just a club about eating. She knows Princeton is a huge reach but I think it showed us that when we do campus tours, food will matter more to her than a lot of other amenities, lol.
S19 would be interested in college ranked by food =))
Hahahah - so would my D. Food is her abiding passion, right up there with watching YouTube videos. (I despair of her sometimes, I really do.)
The kids really do seem to notice the food choices a lot. My older son17 always seemed to be very interested when we toured schools and got to eat in the cafeteria. He liked schools that had multiple cafeterias and little eateries and coffee places scattered around.
If the school had any asian cuisine on the menu ( noodle bowls, rice bowls etc). it had a positive result on his feelings.
Ha.
His most important qualifier is fast wifi. He always wants to know this.
Son19 doesnât really care about food, but he doesnât like dumpy dorms.