Parents of the HS Class of 2019 (Part 1)

So as we inch along, closer to the summer here with just over a week of classes and then done exams… we are somehow managing the stress. It’ll be nice to have summer finally get here and d19 to have a break from a couple of the teachers. You know how it is when you are almost done and the annoying things that could be overlooked before just grate on your nerves when you know it’s almost over.

She ended up being hired for the summer for lifeguarding/ swim instructor and summer volunteering is out as she will be pretty busy between the job, health classes, drivers ed and studying for the P/SAT. I’m hopeful that she will enjoy the job and want to continue during the school year a couple of days a week.

She has a friend whose parents want a list of 5 colleges to visit over the summer. My d was trying to give her the lecture on needing a financial safety, lol. The funny part is d19 never wants to talk colleges with me (d22 loves to do so) but what I am saying must be sinking in!

School is OUT! S19 upstairs sleeping while our D21 is out the door for her last day of eighth grade.

Yesterday was a fabulous day for S19. Took his last final then swung by his chemistry teacher’s room to ask about his final grade. Last semester he missed an A by .1 and she doesn’t round. This time, he got an A. Both he and his teacher were so relieved as he works so hard in this class. His teacher even sent me an email yesterday saying that he’s grown leaps and bounds in confidence since the beginning of the year and she’s so proud of him.

We gave him his 16th birthday present after school, a disk golf basket, and he practiced his putting with his friends. A crazy game of capture the flag after dark with 40 XC kids at a local forest preserve capped off the day. I was a little worried after I dropped him off since it was a bit Lord of the Flies with a bunch of kids dressed in black with glow sticks around their wrists…but he never had so much fun.

Summer is here. Drivers Ed starts on Tuesday. Running, art classes, and SAT studying start pretty soon after that. But, for the next four days, he’s completely free. :wink:

We also got matriculation data on the senior class. Out of 700 kids, 200 are going to Big Ten schools (remember we are in the Chicago area). Fifteen are going to Ivies. Another 20 going to Duke, Vandy, Georgetown, Berkeley. Four to Stanford. Four to MIT. NU and Chicago were harder to get into this year. Only 9 accepted to NU and 5 to Chicago. Usually those numbers are double (with about the same amount of kids applying.)

My biggest take away, though, and the one that affects us most is that hardly anyone applies to top 25 LACs. Six applied to Amhurst. Two got in. Three applied to Kenyon, two got in. Teeny, tiny numbers of kids applied to schools like this considering the graduating class is 700. And, when they got in, most didn’t go. I have to wonder if it’s the same kids who got accepted to the big name universities and they just chose those schools instead.

S19 knows the one boy going to Grinnell and the one boy going to Carleton. He said they are super nice kids. Not pretentious at all. Thinking we should maybe hook up with the Grinnell student if we visit Grinnell in the fall…

Congrats, @homerdog , good news all around! Today and next week are final exams for my D19 – today is Spanish. Tonight she’s going to see the road show of Book of Mormon (we saw it in NYC a few years ago) and then she’s gotta study some over the weekend. The day after school ends (next Friday) we head out for a PNW road trip, which should be relaxing.

Do any of your kids have finals in AP classes? Or, after the AP exam, what happens?

D17’s graduating class is I believe 117. Bulk go to UCB and USC ( we are in L.A.) with others off to NYC, Northwestern, Duke, other UCs. A few Ivies each year, but this past class, at least, wanted universities rather than colleges (unless Wesleyan and Tufts count? I can’t really tell). But historically, those that have chosen LACs have had better undergrad experiences. Carleton in particular has gotten “hot” at this high school, it’s a great place. Remember it’s a small school, so it’s telling that every year one or two kids go there.

My sophomore probably will end up somewhere that doesn’t snow though. She’s such a California Girl.

My d had a final in AP Stats a few days after the AP exam. The teacher does it that way so that the material is fresh for the final since the kids were already studying for the AP. The final was harder than the AP. After that, they had a project/presentation because the class is primarily seniors and the teacher knows senioritis is a thing and let’s them have it easy the last few weeks. My d finished her project last weekend… no one else in the class has done much. They present sometime later next week.

Because we are in NY, 10th graders are required to take the state Global Studies Regents in mid/late June. I don’t think they also have a final (some teachers do even with the regents). Apparently the regents exam is much easier than the world history AP.

I always get envious when I read about schools in other parts of the country that get out early. S still has three weeks to go. Two more weeks of classes and a week for finals.

This term has gone better than last so far. I think he will finish above a 3.0 for the year. Fingers crossed. Much to my surprise he requested to take two AP courses next year - World History and Gov. History is by far his favorite subject, and his one reliable A. At our school you don’t necessarily get everything you request though, so we shall see what they do. They may deny him because of his GPA. I do hope they give him at least one of them, because if he gets turned down now he may not bother requesting any next year. It really was a big decision for him to decide to try the more difficult courses.

Other than that things are good. He is on his way to getting his license and is a very good driver. He took to it very easily. I wish school was that easy for him. He’s also been invited to play summer basketball with the varsity team and I think he will be getting a summer job doing landscaping so the summer is shaping up.

My S19’s finals aren’t until June 19-22! His current final grade in 5 of 7 classes is an A- so if he doesn’t have much room for error (it would be really annoying if they all fell to B/B+ grades). For someone who is good at math, he can’t seem to grasp the difference between a 3.3 and 3.7. Drives me crazy!

@JenJenJenJen In AP classes, finals are before the AP tests. Then kids usually have a project or paper due at the end of the semester.

@me29034 We may get out early, but the first day of school is August 14th. :frowning:

So here’s a maybe weird, maybe sane question, but either way it requires a good bit of setup to give the details of my d19’s specific situation.

D19 and I have been making a starting list of schools for her to investigate. It’s become pretty clear—particularly after she fell utterly in love with calculus this past year—that she’s going to head in the direction of industrial engineering rather than industrial design, so I started out by building her a “big list” of all of the schools in the country that have ABET-accredited (plus those in Canada that have reciprocal EC-accredited) programs in industrial, materials, and/or manufacturing engineering. These are kind of niche engineering disciplines, and so the big list isn’t as big as one might expect—172 schools, plus the two in-state options that offer engineering (though neither of them offer any of those fields).

Next step, which is the one we’re working on together: Since she’s child two of four, and since she’ll overlap her older sister (D17) for us paying tuition, cost is an issue. So we’re going through and getting rid of all the places with high price tags that don’t give merit aid (or where getting merit aid is at the likelihood of winning the lottery—D17 got one of those, but D19’s stats aren’t quite the same level).

Well, this being engineering, most of the schools are publics (with a surprising number of the privates that offer these fields being HBCUs—industrial and manufacturing engineering seem to be overrepresented in HBCU offerings). This means we’re running across some interesting cost differentials.

Take, for example, Wisconsin. Lots of schools in the University of Wisconsin system offer these fields: Madison, Milwaukee, Platteville, Stout, and Stevens Point (though the latter only marginally, with paper engineering, accredited under general engineering). Out of state list price for Madison, as the flagship, is just over $50k; all the other regional-campus-type places have out of state list prices between just over $23k to just over $30k—and whereas Madison offers rather little in merit aid to out-of-state students, most of the other campuses are reasonably generous with it, especially when considered as a percentage of their base cost.

It seems to me, from a financial point of view, that in cases like this a regional campus is the way to go (especially given that ABET accreditation is ABET accreditation no matter where you have it), even—maybe especially—if it turned out that it ended up taking D19 an extra year to finish (the bane of the public university). Of course, I’m faculty at a regional-campus-type place myself, and so I understand that they’re more likely to be undercapitalized and the faculty overworked and so on, but I also know that a good student can do well pretty much anywhere.

So, finally, the question: Is there any reason for a student like my D19, with good but not worldbeating stats (and a quite uneven grade record in compiling those decent stats, and pretty consistently getting in the high 20s but never 30 on practice ACTs) and a longstanding focus on her field of interest, to target “high-end” schools at all?

@dfbdfb Gosh. I don’t think so. Seems like you’ve done a lot of work and made good progress on a list that makes sense. Unless there are industrial engineering programs that are particularly fabulous at “high end” schools, then I can’t imagine why you would add to your list…especially if they will be expensive. Maybe just focus on finding a regional school with the program D wants and a campus that she likes. Seems like there should still be lots of choices for her with those limitations.

@dfbdfb I’m no expert but the one thing I would worry about with the regional campuses is recruiting. The large flagships will attract large national employers. Who recruits at the regional campuses? Will it be the same large companies or will it be more locally focused? This doesn’t mean that she couldn’t get a job that isn’t local but she might have to work harder at it.

@dfbdfb
This is JMO, but you’ve described your d19 as hyperdriven. I don’t think a regional campus will be a problem for her in the least with that kind of trait.

Hi all- I wanted to say hello.

Today is the last day of school for us! D19 had one final paper to present and was home by 12. I am officially the mom of a Junior! She is a little stressed about keeping herself busy this summer. (because she can even stress out about relaxing ;))

She will be going for 2 weeks to Blueprint summer college programs. Anyone have experience with it?? She is super excited about her first taste of college life. I couldn’t find very many reviews for the program but the location and timing worked out well for us so we went for it. Fingers crossed that it’s a great time! If anyone knows anything about it I’d love to hear.

P.S. D had her AP English Language exam 3 or 4 weeks ago- and her final this week. I guess every school does it differently.

Yeah, @SunnyFlorida22 – I guess different schools do things differently. I asked because my D17’s AP classes ended the day of the AP exam, except for juniors in those classes. My D19 has one AP, Euro, and it continued beyond the AP exam but only with little year-end summary projects that, as far as I could tell, existed mostly as busywork to get an extra point or two in the final grade. @homerdog it sounds like different schools do things differently.

We have school final exams for AP subjects as well. They weigh differently depending on the teachers’ rubric.
We are spending the summer travelling, and visiting family, old friends. D19 is going to work a bit on SAT/ACT prep on her own. I know that this kind of “prep” translates to catching up on sleep and spending time with friends hiking, rafting, kayaking, etc. She deserves a break…

@dfbdfb - My son just graduated from UW-Stout in Computer Science/Game Design. He had stats to get him into some fine schools but Stout was a perfect fit for him. It’s an AMAZING place to study anything STEM as they are a Polytechnic university and they really pride themselves on serving that up in all of their majors. I know the engineering program is young at Stout as was the Game Design program when my son started. But they have come sooo far in that time with several student designed games winning at the national level and a 100% 6-month placement rate (grad school or employment). Regarding recruitment, Stout has one of the largest Fall job fairs in the Midwest, spanning 2 days and drawing in over 300 employers from all over, including but not limited to 3M, General Mills, IBM, PepsiCo, Cisco and lots of others. Minneapolis is only 1 hour from Stout and is a major location for many employers.

S had an amazing co-op last summer and was offered a full time position with the company before he even left to go back to school. He will be starting his job next week at a pay level that is, from what I’ve gathered, exceptional for an entry-level programmer in the area and great benefits to boot! Employers in WI and MN know how qualified Stout students are when they graduate and seek them out knowing they will get well taught, well trained employees. So as you can see, at least in our case, it was not necessary for us to spend $$$$$$$$$ to get a fantastic education. He was awarded generous scholarships his first year, and although he was not awarded any in subsequent years, Stout still gave him some tuition waiver money for which we were grateful. But even without that, the price tag for the amazing education he received was very fair.

Good luck to your son - if you want to know more, feel free to PM me.

Took S19 to SAT subject math 2 test and back.
Hope everyone had a good test day!

Whenever kids see other kids from school/neighborhood at the testing site, they stop complaining (you-dragged-me-here-on Saturday 7:30 am for a cancerous test when even the school is out for summer-whining) and go into social mode. :))

@payn4ward Exactly. Plus, there’s the “I can’t believe you’re making me take this test. No one else is taking it.” And then they see a dozen kids they know before they walk into the school.