Parents of the HS Class of 2026

Yikes. So glad the teacher reached out to her! It would be very hard for a kid to assume there was a glitch and follow up after thinking they’re being ghosted.

Hopefully the school makes an announcement to the seniors that School Links is wonky, and that they should contact teachers about LORs if they haven’t heard anything.

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Oy. Is there any way to fix this? I mean, they’re actively harming their kids if they send an inaccurate school profile to colleges. :confused:

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This is definitely the case at our large suburban HS in Texas. The school profile lists 33 AP courses that are “offered,” but in reality many of them are rarely or never taught because (allegedly) there aren’t enough interested students. If a student requests such a class for their schedule, the counselor will just report back that “the class didn’t make” and ask the student to choose a substitute. This happened multiple times to D22, and D26 wasn’t able to take AP Chem this year because, you guessed it, the class didn’t make.

In other cases, a student can enroll in an AP class, but it’s not a real class - just an independent study with the teacher. D26 reports that students taking AP French (4th level) are just put back into French 3 again and given periodic extra assignments by the teacher.

I suspect that this disconnect between school profile and reality isn’t uncommon among large publics, at least those where a fairly small subset of students will be applying to highly selective schools. Given the workload on the small counseling staff, I would guess that “updating and cross-checking the AP list on the school profile” is never among the top priorities in a given year.

I’m guessing colleges realize this, then – or hopefully they do – if you suspect it’s common?

Our small religious-based private school lists 27 AP courses, most of which they do actually offer. (Often AP Music Theory or AP Latin don’t make.)

However, the school limits students to taking only 6 AP courses total. Occasionally a strong student will petition and be able to take a couple more (my D22 took 7, plus multivariable calculus which is weighted like an AP) – but nothing like the 14+ APs that students in our local publics are taking.

And then, the school requires 6 semesters of Bible classes, which take up valuable schedule slots.

They claim that they inform colleges of both of these things on the school profile, but I’ve yet to see evidence of that.

Has anyone bought Jeff Selingo’s new book, Dream School? His list of 75 “dream schools” that aren’t the norm – but offer some compelling factor or exceptional value – has been leaked, lol, and three of the schools on it are schools that D26 applied to.

Big fan of this author’s – his last book Who Gets In and Why was invaluable when D22 was applying, but dude, I wasn’t planning to buy this one so late in the game. But now I really want to know what he said!

My library has it on order, but who knows when it will come in, and I’m impatient. :joy:

(Here is the list, according to one website – New "Dream Schools" from Selingo's new book ... )

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If this had come out earlier- I would have considered it. But I feel like we are past the point for it at this time.

According to that list- D26 has 3 schools that are listed there.

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A few schools on C26’s list there, including the safety they’re already admitted to.

I’m just speculating, but I would guess that colleges are generally aware that school profiles may not always be accurate re: AP offerings, just as they are known to be aware that large school counselors don’t really know individual students and probably won’t be able to write a meaningful recommendation. I think the potentially problematic part of your example would be the limit of 6 APs; unless a particular college routinely takes many students from a given HS and knows its procedures in detail, I’m not sure how a college would know about that limitation if it isn’t reported on the school profile.

That said, I believe that your 22 and my 22 are at the same super-selective college, so perhaps none of this is really hurting any of us. :slight_smile:

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In a true sign of admissions-nerd status, I pre-ordered it months ago. It arrived last week, and I’m almost halfway through. The 75-school list won’t have many surprises for CC regulars - it’s places like Pitt and Maryland and St. Olaf and Denison that are well-known to this community for their under-the-radar excellence.

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Haven’t purchased it. Not planning on buying it since D26’s list is basically done. If she was in 11th grade, I would have. Heard him interviewed in a podcast a few days ago and it was interesting. He had some solid advice & great perspective.

Well, it looks like 9 of D26’s schools are on Selingo’s list. I wasn’t planning on getting the book as it wouldn’t change anything about D’s college list, but now I am curious what he has to say about these schools in the descriptive part of the book… since eventually I expect she’ll be making a decision about where to enroll.

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My kid’s school doesn’t have AP classes, so how the school represents that is not something we have to worry about.

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D26 only has one school on the list, but I’m curious as to the reasons for Montclair State. She was kind of interested, but had decided against it because she had heard it was a “suitcase” school.

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I’m always surprised when I see St Mary’s make it onto these lists. It kind of “feels” like it’s very much a locally-only known college. Very pretty little campus. C26’s choir has ann annual performance in the chapel.

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I have not bought the book and probably won’t because of where we are in D26s search already. That said, I may try to borrow and audiobook listen if I can for funseies. From a brief look at the comments in the link, the framing of looking for value (rather than ROI) does resonate better with me, because I think the term value encompasses a lot more than just cost and likely earnings.

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Indeed, lol! Although she is only the second student that our high school has sent there (the valedictorian from 21 also landed there and just graduated) – but I think that’s more a factor of our local culture, and not really the school’s requirements or profile.

It’s been a fantastic experience for her, and I’m a touch sad that it’s not a good fit for D26 at all – but her search for far less-selective schools has been a lot less stressful! :smiley:

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I was likewise surprised to see Berry College and GA Southern on the list. I have my own opinions of both being in-state, so I wonder how much the author really knows about the nuances of each – I’m curious to see what he writes. Dangit, I’m going to have to buy the book. :joy:

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Some random observations:

  • people posting about how great their kids are doing at various sports on social media. That’s fine - parents have a right to be proud of their kids! - but I do sometimes wonder why it is socially acceptable (at least around here and where I was before) to post about your kid’s success at sport but not really about anything academic? Or is it different elsewhere?
  • Lots of singing around the house as C26 gears up for the auditions for the musical next week. I really hope they get the part they want but I have no idea what the competition for it is and neither do they
  • ASU is regularly sending emails - about admittance, financing options, housing options etc. I don’t remember D19’s college doing this, or at least not before the ‘you have to do this by x date” ones. Not really anything else to compare it to. They do seem to be trying hard to make students welcome and understand everything they need to do. Also, as many colleges do, emails directly to the student are preferred name but to parents use their legal name. I understand why they do this and definitely approve of the motivation, but we haven’t called C26 their given name for maybe 4 years now so it seems jarring to see that on an email!
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This is pretty common, I think. Or at least from what I’ve seen amongst my friends with their kids.

D26 is very private so I rarely post about her on my social media, and on those rare occasions, only with her approval. I refrain from posting about her accomplishments, sports or otherwise as those are hers to share as she sees fit.

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Re: people posting about their kids sports on social media -
I am friends w/a couple of parents who do this a lot. It doesn’t bother me though. I sort of put in the category of “I’m proud of my kid and want to share my excitement with others.”

And that’s why when my kids do something academically that I’m proud of, I share that on my social media. The people I’m connected to on social media know that I’m not doing it to brag, so it’s no big deal that I share the news.

So, like, 2 yr ago when D24 was going through the college app process, every time she got an acceptance letter & a scholarship awarded, I shared the news. Just like a couple of parents I know who post about every baseball game or swim meet. Not that much different. :slight_smile:

Re: ASU -
I think I heard this on a podcast some time in the last year that what their admissions dept will do is periodically send students emails asking them to fill out a survey of different things they’re interested in on & around campus, and then the next set of emails that student receives are customized to highlight different ways to connect with other students, faculty, staff, etc. on those topics. Like, “Oh you said you’re into D&D? Did you know there’s D&D clubs on campus? Here’s how to find them:” That sort of thing.

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