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<p>But that is why the rankings are not fair. Wake Forest is a research orientated LAC!!! Michigan is just research orientated period, but his research is more on the grad level. These rankings show you that perhaps you get a better undergraduate experience at a school like Wake/BC/Tufts/Lehigh/etc. than at a graduate focused school like UMich or Wisconsin.
Furthermore, you can estimate the quality of faculty and facilities with numbers. Numbers are just. The opinion of possibly uninformed people contain biases. PA is obviously a joke within the upper echelon of deans/presidents when less than half respond.</p>

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Don’t make it seem like i think Wake is better than Michigan. I never stated that, I think Wake and schools like it will give you a better undergraduate experience. For graduate school Michigan is on par with about any school in the country.</p>

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<p>if the same people that were asked to rate the national universities were asked to rank top LACs, i guarantee you Amherst and Williams would be ranked lower than “we thought they should be,” maybe somewhere around the 4.0 range, because there is no graduate level research. And theyre called PEER assessment ratings for a reason. Only schools on the same rankings list are asked to evaluate each other. This accounts for Amherst and Williams having a 4.6-4.7 i forget exactly what it is, and also accounts for villanova having a 4.2, when you wouldnt say its more prestigious than WashU, Notre Dame…, because only masters granting universities rank them.</p>

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<p>Why is alumni giving % a factor in the rankings?</p>

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<p>Because it shows how great their undergraduate experience was. Are you likely to give $$$ to a place you didn’t enjoy? No! It also helps show how strong the alumni network is within the school.</p>

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<p>Peer assesment free rankings gives an unfair bump to private schools</p>

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<p>Why can’t people let this die???</p>

<p>Oh well, it’s entertaining.</p>

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<p>You only want it to die because PA helps your school hang on to where it is on USNWR. Otherwise, the differences in selectivity and other important factors would be exposed.</p>

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<p>Drew00, i believe that PA gives publics an unfair advantage.</p>

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<p>No, I want it to die because people make assumptions about other people, make false statements, and analyze the rankings incorrectly.</p>

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<p>the average public school is a lot larger than the average private school so of course the alumni giving rate will be higher. Also what correlation is there between yeild rate and quality of education?</p>

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<p>So what you’re saying is if school A is more selective than school B then you’ll get a better education at school A?</p>

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<p>I disagree with the arbitrary rankings for failing to not include an arbitrary factor.</p>

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<p>My points ARE not valid? You only gave feedback on one of three things I mentioned. I didn’t ask WHAT “predicted graduation rate” is. I said it’s not objective. “expectation” is by definition subjective! There’s no objective way to quantify it. </p>

<p>Like I said, when financial resource includes those for medical research, the advantage can be pretty signifcant for schools with top med schools, given the little difference and tight race in other categories. I suspect that plays a major role in UPenn/WashU’s ranking (regardless whether you include PA or not).</p>

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<p>How so?</p>

<p>Only two publics are given PA’s equal to the top privates; Berkeley and Michigan</p>

<p>Not too far below them are UCLA and Virginia… but aside from these, most public PA scores are well below their private counterparts.</p>

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<p>are the actual individual rankings that each college official submits on record somewhere?</p>

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<p>“Because it shows how great their undergraduate experience was. Are you likely to give $$$ to a place you didn’t enjoy? No! It also helps show how strong the alumni network is within the school.”</p>

<p>-That’s a pretty silly reason to me.</p>

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<p>“Isn’t “predicted graduation rate” subjective?” AND “There’s no objective way to quantify it.” </p>

<p>Sam Lee, you REALLY do not know very much about the USNews, don’t you!</p>

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<p>xiggi,</p>

<p>You don’t need to be rude. Your comment adds nothing to the discussion. Yes, I don’t know and don’t see how they can come up with it objectively; do you? If you do, please explain.</p>

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<p>“That’s a pretty silly reason to me.”</p>

<p>kk19131, I think you are silly. :)</p>

<p>seriously.</p>

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<p>Wunderbar… :rolleyes:</p>