<p>The only way this can get stranger is if we find that the 4 boys who say nothing happened are found to be full scholarship Penn State football players.</p>
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<p>How did the incident make it to the Grand Jury report if the janitor didn’t report it to someone?</p>
<p>Yes, the janitor who solely witnessed the incident (but reported it to other colleagues and his supervisor, Jay Witherite) is in an assisted living facility and was diagnosed with dementia. He is incompetent to testify. It is in the indictment (p 21-23, victim 8). Witherite, according to the indictment, told him who he should report it to, if he chose to report it. It does not sound liek Witherite reported it to anyone.</p>
<p>^^^ I assume once prosecutors started digging, the long-rumored incident came to light.</p>
<p>The NYT is reporting that at least 10 more alleged victims have come forward.</p>
<p>What a mess.</p>
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<p>Okay. The article I read said he reported it to his supervisor.</p>
<p>From The Gazette:</p>
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<p>nrdsb - he did report to his supervisor. I added that after I found his name (Wetherite)</p>
<p>^^^^The 2 janitors reported what they had seen to their supervisor. He didnt report the incident to anyone but instead gave them the name of someone they should tell. I dont think either janitor notified that person or anyone else except the other janitors working that night.</p>
<p>What appalls me most about Sandusky’s continued refusal to accept blame is that for so long he was treated as if his conduct wasn’t so bad. Maybe bad enough to be banned from coaching, but not bad enough to be banned from bringing boys to Penn State shower rooms, not bad enough to be banned from The Second Mile, and certainly not bad enough to be sent to prison.</p>
<p>It’s no wonder he has now convinced himself he’s done nothing wrong.</p>
<p>Add-- another janitor named Petrosky saw 2 pr of feet in the shower and later saw them (Sandusky and the child) leaving the building (with wet hair) hand in hand.</p>
<p>I don’t know the law. If these 10 new allegations are investigated and proven to be true, can they be part of the trial even if they weren’t in the original GJ report?</p>
<p>Interesting that Jerry told the same story as Joe regarding the horsing around in the shower defense(although I think Joe added fondling). Must be a local custom. I have been a coach for many years; can’t think of another coach, or person for that matter, who would think that horsing around with and/or molesting naked young boys would be defensible/acceptable.</p>
<p>See pages 21 and 22 of Grand Jury report regarding janiors. One was a direct eye witness and another witnessed Sandusky and victim 8 leaving hand in hand. Janitor who was eye witness told a group of janitors and it was reported to a supervisor, Jay Witherite. Eye witness was extremely upset, had fought in Korean war and seen people get their guts blown out, limbs dismembered, and said what he witnessed with Sandusky, he would never forget.</p>
<p>Its one of the benefits of being a janitor. You’re not held to the standard that people apply to persons involved in activities that they dislike.</p>
<p>That incident happened nearly two years before the McQueary observation.</p>
<p>Edit: Cross posted–not directed at any individual poster…but a general reflection on the thread.</p>
<p>I think the suicide watch is a great idea!</p>
<p>I’d like to watch if it happens</p>
<p>dadx, are you saying that any of us who fault Paterno don’t like football?</p>
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<p>Wrong. Butcher, baker, cabinet maker, irrelevant.</p>
<p>If you witness a rape or child molestation, you either stop it and call police, or call police and let them stop it (credit to John Stewart).</p>
<p>If you SUSPECT a child is being abused (whether it be physical violence, simple neglect, or sexual abuse), you report to CPS or similar authority. </p>
<p>The above may or may not be legally mandated, but in my opinion, whether you are janitor or coach, you have a moral obligation to put the child’s safety over your own concerns, as hard as that may be to do.</p>
<p>“Its one of the benefits of being a janitor. You’re not held to the standard that people apply to persons involved in activities that they dislike.”</p>
<p>A janitor certain does not have the power of a Paterno. However, he did report it to his supervisor, just like Joe did.</p>
<p>"…whether you are janitor or coach, you have a moral obligation to put the child’s safety over your own concerns, as hard as that may be to do. "</p>
<p>That goes without saying, Nrdsb4, imo.</p>
<p>no, he meant people who don’t like persons involved in activities like passing the buck, or cover ups</p>
<p>dadx - Or maybe people resent a violation of the public trust.</p>