<p>sax, I only know what I read in the GJ report:</p>
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<p>It sure sounds like he met the GA in the morning and called his boss the next day, a Sunday. Whether it was 18 hours or 24 hours later doesn’t matter…he clearly didn’t take immediate action. We know that he didn’t fill out the Clery Act report or call the police or CPS because all of those things would have a paper trail that would be evident by now.</p>
<p>Tom, that would be remarkable considering Schultz and Curley did not report it:</p>
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<p>Paterno would not be the one to complete the paperwork for the Clery Act. The information for the Clery Act is not an immediate reporting either. Again he knows the police were involved and he may have been told CPS was notified. You have referred to the GJ report so read Schultz’s testimony. He says CPS was notified that proved false but we do not know if Paterno was told the call was made.</p>
<p>It is on page 9.</p>
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<p>Yet the police records subpoenaed by the Grand Jury show no contact, no report made by McQueary or any other person. Grand Jury report states that McQueary never contacted police or any other entity. </p>
<p>Someone here is lying or covering up the facts.</p>
<p>It appears that neither Paterno nor McQueary was mandated by law to report to DPH. However, what people keep forgetting or refusing to acknowledge is that any person who suspects (or even better, actually witnesses) child abuse is still free to call and make their own report. They are not limited to informing their superiors. I really wish someone had gone the extra mile (actually foot) and reported this incident when it became a distinct possibility that by virtue of S. continuing to freely come and go with children, that the incident had in fact not been passed on to the appropriate authorities. Any one of a number of people could have made their own report to DPW or CPS or whatever it is called in PA.</p>
<p>Looks like the only one with power here is Sandusky.
Power to keep everyone cowering.
Power to shut down investigations.Whether you were 8 or 80, he had power over you.</p>
<p>Excellent new that Spanier , though fired as president of PSU will still be able to teach there :(</p>
<p>Not sure if the Board can fire professors.
He will remain in the Health and Human Development department. He should be embarrassed to show up in the classroom. As a sociology professor.</p>
<p>Interesting article about a former GA who worked under Paterno in the 1980s.
[Penn</a> State Scandal: Matt Paknis, Former Graduate Assistant, Says Joe Paterno Knows Everything](<a href=“Penn State Scandal: Matt Paknis, Former Graduate Assistant, Says Joe Paterno Knows Everything | HuffPost Sports”>Penn State Scandal: Matt Paknis, Former Graduate Assistant, Says Joe Paterno Knows Everything | HuffPost Sports)</p>
<p>The last quote struck me:</p>
<p>“Overall, I saw Joe as a master spin doctor whose image shed a far greater shadow than his actual character,” wrote Paknis.</p>
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<p>Athletic coaches fall under the definition of “campus security authority” for Clery and are required to make that report if they receive any credible allegation that a covered crime has occurred on campus. Immediate or not, that incident does not appear in the '02 Clery report for PSU and certainly would have called attention to the mattter. Again, he failed to act and, by doing so, enabled a rapist. He wasn’t the only one, but I doubt that will allow him to sleep any better at night.</p>
<p>EPTR this is the quote that stuck out to me. </p>
<p>"…Matt Paknis, a former graduate assistant offensive line coach who worked under Paterno during the late 1980’s, provided his best answer to that question when he spoke to Mike Francesca on WFAN in New York."…</p>
<p>This guy is talking about 30 years ago.</p>
<p>“I don’t believe decent people would be more or less revolted if the racial roles were reversed.”</p>
<p>If the racial roles were reversed, you would have read about it A LONG TIME AGO. Welcome to America. We are Penn State!</p>
<p>(Just as you would all have known about the racial threats against WHITE football players, the killing of a WHITE man paralleling a direct racial threat being made, and refusal of a Black coach to defend his white players. But none of you did, did you?)</p>
<p>sk8- do you really believe Paterno was the one that was supposed to complete the report for the Clery Act especially once it was reported to the AD and Schultz. You want to condemn Paterno because that incident was not reported.</p>
<p>mini- if those charges are proven true that will end the Penn State football program. If African American football players decide not to attend they may not be able to compete on the Division 3 level.</p>
<p>Mini, whether the race were disclosed earlier or not, I do not think it would change the attitude of those on this board in any way. I had no idea what the race of the children were until you brought it up. </p>
<p>Sadly, you are correct that to some people in the world, it would make a difference. I am just not sure that those on this thread deserve disrespect when race was never part of the discussion for over 2,600 posts. And when it was brought up, not one person voiced that it made a difference in their views.</p>
<p>I think a lot of people had to know about this for a very long time Gossip spreads quickly, Sandusky was barely hiding it. He was bringing boys into communal showers where people were walking in on him. How comfortable he must have felt that he was being protected.</p>
<p>Interesting article by David Brooks in the NYT.</p>
<p><a href=“Opinion | Let’s All Feel Superior - The New York Times”>Opinion | Let’s All Feel Superior - The New York Times;
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<p>When the word came out that the boys who were abused were “at risk,” I figured it was a pretty racially diverse group. I found the whole thing revolting, sickening, and reprehensible. But I cannot really argue with your assertions. I do believe if white players were targeted with death threats, we would indeed have heard about it, and the coaches would have taken precautions to assure the safety of the players. If white students were getting death threats and a white student was subsequently found murdered in a locale referenced in the letters, I would have heard about it all the way here in Texas. </p>
<p>No, I cannot argue with you about any of it. But I did not see this kind of racial insensitivity expressed in this thread, and I figure most intelligent people can connect the dots that at risk youths will include a number of non white children. People here seem outraged nonetheless.</p>
<p>“And when it was brought up, not one person voiced that it made a difference in their views.”</p>
<p>And I attribute to the fact that they didn’t know. I don’t think even ONE person on this forum knew about Paterno’s response to the threat to Black students before I brought it up. I hope (and fully expect) it does now.</p>
<p>I don’t think there was much racial insensitivity expressed in this thread. (though see below) I do believe that there is much racial “blindness” - blindness that is at least partially a result of the media’s presentation of the world, and partially a result of Penn State and JoePa’s actions. I mean students felt so unsafe that they wore gun-protective armor to graduation - and it wasn’t the white ones.</p>
<p>And I also believe that when folks start talking about shutting down a football program, they should look carefully at what they are suggesting.</p>
<p>Tom, Paterno was the person that took the GA’s report. The others didn’t even meet with him for over a week. It seems the GA thought Paterno had done the reporting and Paterno was happy to just pass the buck and did not clarify the situation or even advise his assistant to call the police. But all I’m really saying is that he had a duty, a moral duty if not a legal one, to make sure the incident was properly reported. He certainly had more power than Curley or Schultz and he should have made certain that happened, either by doing it himself or by making sure one of the others actually did it. I understand that he was protecting his program and players but he has to be held to a higher standard than that. So, yes, I’m willing to say that he failed miserably in performing his duty and children continued to suffer as a result of that.</p>
<p>Their world is very small world at Penn state in the football department. It is ridiculous to think they didn’t know. They are all intertwined and social, job, volunteer work, camps, all over lapped. Even if one man knew sandusky acts creepy around little boys that should have been enough for these men to shun him, not support him, give him the minimum resources they could possibly get away with. And that’s just if all they knew was he was creepy. And that very likely they all knew much moremof his sick and illegal behavior they did the opposite and embraced him into their world, supported him, his programs etc.</p>
<p>They are all culpable, and sadly if not legally, then morally, and if a kid can get suspended for lessor classroom offendces then these men deserve nothing less then firing and no pensions, if not jail.</p>