<p>Yes, your right skr8mom. I wasn’t speaking to a legal dismissal. Just to the fact that the case was not filed and “dismissed” from consideration.</p>
<p>Interesting item sent from a friend on another of my on line sites. “The rumor mill says that the grand jury testimony shows (not appearing in the indictment since these are not facts relevant to the indictments of Sandusky, Curley, Schultz) that 3 days after McQueary’s meeting with Curley/Schultz, Paterno followed up and was told that a full investigation was occurring. Having heard nothing, approx. 3 months later, Paterno followed up again and was told that the police and the DA were not going to pursue the matter. It is reported that Paterno’s reaction was one of anger and that he demanded that Sandusky be barred from campus. Paterno was told that he didn’t have that authority as the football coach. Paterno then said he was going to bar Sandusky from all football facilities and was told that he did have that authority. (4th hand from the AG’s office. Assign veracity accordingly.)”</p>
<p>If this is true, it does change some things. We just don’t have all the facts yet. The only things released were relevant to the indictments and were only the persecutor’s case.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.thesecondmile.org/pdf/AnnualReport2010.pdf[/url]”>Account Suspended;
<p>The two counties with the most served kids are Lancaster and Montgomery. Montgomery is interesting (IMO) because it is high income and has 15 Universities. </p>
<p>There are also multiple internships for college students (unpaid) in multiple disciplines - other departments than sports. They are listed in another section of the charity website.</p>
<p>singersmom, if that is true, then good for Paterno and he will most definitely be seen with infinitely better light than it has been. However, it seems the information you wrote has a ton of relevancy to the charge against Sandusky, Curley and Schulz especially if those push back and lies came from Curley and Schulz. I personally would not leave it out of the grand jury presentment if I was the DA, so that is a little puzzling to me.</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t make too much of the “kids served” figures. If you dig a little deeper, it looks like over 95% of those “served” were served either by getting Penn State football cards with some life/survival tips by Penn State players, or by watching one of three Second Mile videos. This looks to me like a pretty modest, low-budget, low-impact outfit, with a few staff doing some useful things here and there, but mostly just a vehicle for Sandusky to hustle up his slary and hustle up some kids. Yuck!</p>
<p>At least they’ve replaced the judge, Leslie Dutchcot, over her conflict of interest. She’s being replaced by a senior judge, Robert Scott, who may change the Dec. 7 date for the next hearing. I wonder if he can change the bail.</p>
<p>[Murrysville</a> senior district judge will hear Sandusky case - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review](<a href=“http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_767645.html?_s_icmp=NetworkHeadlines]Murrysville”>http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_767645.html?_s_icmp=NetworkHeadlines)</p>
<p>There are plenty of poor white kids in central Pennsylvania.</p>
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<p>Exactly! Why would the numbers be so high in a high income area if they were legitimate?</p>
<p>Or, a tax dodge the IRS will take down.</p>
<p>Singersmom07: With apologies to your friend, that doesn’t make any sense. Sandusky has access to the team’s weight room as recently as Late October. And why was he an honorary board member of the charity that Sandusky founded? </p>
<p>As late as 2009 Sandusky was running overnight camps at other Penn State Campuses as well:</p>
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<p>Sorry but it sounds like wishful thinking on people’s part</p>
<p>I can’t believe this discussion turned into a racial rant …</p>
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<p>I think we want to condemn Paterno et al because they KNEW there was a predator in their midst, and they didn’t do whatever it took to stop him. There was nothing to prevent any one of them from picking up the phone and calling the cops (and by that I mean REAL cops – cops who weren’t beholden to Penn State for their paychecks). And every one of them failed to make that phone call, either that day or for years and years after. </p>
<p>You can bury yourself in minutiae, dredge up technicalities, twist the plain meaning of words, and rationalize a group of powerful men who looked the other way while children were hurt. But 3 facts remain: They knew Jerry had a problem, had known for years. They didn’t act effectively to stop him. And children suffered. </p>
<p>They probably face few legal consequences for their inaction. But how anyone can argue for giving them the benefit of the doubt “until the facts come out” is just beyond me.</p>
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<p>If it happens on a college campus, it has to be reported to CAMPUS police. That’s their jurisdiction. They are “REAL police.”</p>
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<p>Hasn’t been proven. Here you all are throwing this guy under the bus along with many administrators and we don’t even know the story yet. Remember Casey Anthony was a slam-dunk guilty individual too… oh wait she was found not guilty…</p>
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<p>Sometimes they do get away with murder.</p>
<p>hops_scout, by “real police” I mean police who would have done something, police who had an arms-length relationship to the university. Paterno surely noticed that no one from law enforcement came around asking him questions. McQueary surely noticed that a man he saw raping a child was walking around free 9 years later. These men had a moral responsibility to see that Sandusky was arrested, and if the college police wouldn’t do it, they needed to go outside. They shouldn’t have just said, “Oh well, that’s that.” </p>
<p>And yes, I’m throwing Jerry under the bus. In all of the evasions of responsibility we’ve seen coming out of Penn State officials, not a one has actually denied that the 2002 shower incident happened. And knowing that it happened, they had a duty to get him off the streets. Unless, of course, the university’s interests were more important than the safety of children. In that light, their actions and inactions make perfect sense.</p>
<p>And what in the world is wrong with the attorneys in Happy Valley?? In a case like this, aren’t clients firmly admonished not to talk to anyone? And yet, two leading figures in the case have now opened themselves up for some rough cross-examination by not keeping their mouths shut. </p>
<p>Bob Costas said on Rome today that the Sandusky interview was his attorney’s idea. Amendola apparently figured that things were going so badly for his client that it couldn’t hurt to start presenting the other side … 
Unfortunately for that strategy, it appears the interview made at least one victim angry, and even more determined to testify about “severe sexual assault.” The victim’s attorney Ben Andreozzi also says that, contrary to Amendola’s statement that victims are changing their stories (which IMO was intended to intimidate them): </p>
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<p>No surprise there. They haven’t figured out that it was face-saving mode that landed them in this mess.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/lawyer-says-client-will-testify-to-severe-sexual-assault-in-sandusky-case.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/lawyer-says-client-will-testify-to-severe-sexual-assault-in-sandusky-case.html</a></p>
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<p>Yeah, but that was more because it was a capital case. If they’d gone for manslaughter, I think she would have been found guilty. But, I watched a lot of that trial, for some reason, and I wouldn’t have convicted her of death penalty murder. </p>
<p>The guy who defended Michael Jackson has started talking about this case. What’s the over/under he ends up taking this one to trial, if it goes to trial?</p>
<p>PSU and Second Mile, more complicated then i thought…also up thread was a comment about if a woman had known, Sandusky’s behavior would have been reported…near end of this article,a woman did know,unfortunately she was is married to Jack Raykovitz. ;(</p>
<p>[Patriot-News</a> Special Report: The Second Mile and Penn State: Charity and university’s fates were tied together | PennLive.com](<a href=“http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/patriot-news_special_report_th.html]Patriot-News”>Patriot-News Special Report: The Second Mile and Penn State: Charity and university's fates were tied together - pennlive.com)</p>
<p>qdopa - There’s nothing unusal about that if Sandusky didn’t turn out like this. In fact, it would be commendable having a close relationship. It benefits them both. The charity was one of President George H. W. Bush’s “Thousand Points of Light.” If PSU knew what Sandusky was like and maintained the realtionship and encouraged donations, that would be a scandal. Did PSU know about it? If not, PSU was used. That makes PSU a victim, not a perpetrater and the article is being sensational.</p>
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<p>Exactly. And this is what it all boils down to. Whether there will ever be an consequences for these jerks or not remains to be seen.</p>
<p>I don’t know who you are calling jerks but Paterno seems to have gotten consequences already. We’ll find out if it is enough. Or too much.</p>