Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>Obviously, the other analogy to the university is the corporation.
Again, a thorough and thoughtful analysis of how these entities regulate and police themselves is always in order.</p>

<p>I would also say that the Constitution was a very good initial attempt to prevent internal bias and self-policing and unlimited power accumulation by one party…
Yet, as we can see these days, even that structure is failing when there are large amounts of money in the hands fo a small number of citizens. </p>

<p>I am not saying a college or a corportation should exactly be a democracy, but it is time to come up with healthy awareness of the pitfalls present in the way these are structured at this time.</p>

<p>You know, it IS a free market- so let the applications go down, the recruiting results falter, the football record waste away. That is the “natural” result of a scandal like this.</p>

<p>I am not saying it is Fair at all, but that is what causes a corrections if there are no other proper controls in place.
A community benefits from a program like this, so it may have to suffer along with its trangressions.</p>

<p>Unrelated to the WSJ story, but this morning’s statement by PSU president:</p>

<p>[PSU</a> president’s message: Moving forward | News | CentreDaily.com](<a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/22/2995664/psu-presidents-message-moving.html]PSU”>http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/22/2995664/psu-presidents-message-moving.html)</p>

<p>JHS, if there is a compelling reason to pick PSU – a top program in my area of interest, huge merit and FA that makes attending there more desirable – I wouldn’t refuse to send my kid. But in my scenario I’m saying that all other things being equal I have enough information about the culture there to make me think that the culture goes in the “no, thanks” column. To me, it’s comparable to things like Greek life or urban or rural – just one more piece of information.</p>

<p>Actually with Paterno gone, I think everything improves there now. Time for a fresh start. You know it would be nice if Paterno could make a statement about the treatment of the victims who are now being harassed. One actually had to leave high school over it. Victimized twice by the same program. Its just vile</p>

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<p>Exactly why my DS chose PSU. And that hasn’t changed.</p>

<p>I fully recognize that the Duke lacrosse scandal was a completely different animal, and I’m not drawing any parallels, but did anyone ever quantify the impact of that scandal on Duke’s brand name, applications, etc.?</p>

<p>Makes perfect sense Grc. :)</p>

<p>interesting blog from 2007…I posted this on the PSU thread, meant to post here. </p>

<p>Moderator’s Note: Links to blogs are not allowed, so this one was deleted.</p>

<p>vlines and sm74, thanks for the links. Interesting perspective.</p>

<p>The article in post 3031 is not surprising to me. I posted very early on that people I know who have known Paterno for years describe him as a self righteous pr—. He doesn’t allow anything about himself or the team to be questioned. He surrounded himself with people who would not question his authority. They were surprised that some sort of scandal had not come out prior to this but they never expected it be something like this.</p>

<p>[Jerry</a> Sandusky Scandal: A Former Penn State Player Reflects - The Daily Beast](<a href=“Jerry Sandusky Scandal: A Former Penn State Player Reflects”>Jerry Sandusky Scandal: A Former Penn State Player Reflects)</p>

<p>Very insightful.</p>

<p>From today’s WSJ article:</p>

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<p>One wonders. Perhaps unrelated.</p>

<p>^ dadx,
It looks to be unrelated. This is from a story in today’s USA today about Vicky Triponey, former Penn State vice-president of student affairs who had direct oversight over the university’s Office of Judicial Affairs, which handled internal disciplinary matters. Triponey clashed frequently with Joe Paterno over what she regarded as his meddling in any disciplinary matters involving anyone having anything to do with the football program. She was forced out in 2007. Here’s what it says about the Dan Connor incident:</p>

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<p>The entire story is here. It’s troubling. It’s also based almost entirely on the recollections of Triponey, a disgruntled former employee, so keep some perspective on it. Still, it’s troubling. </p>

<p>[Joe</a> Paterno’s rule was far-reaching, former Penn State official says | Detroit Free Press | freep.com](<a href=“http://www.freep.com/article/20111122/SPORTS08/111122028/Joe-Paterno-s-rule-far-reaching-former-Penn-State-official-says]Joe”>http://www.freep.com/article/20111122/SPORTS08/111122028/Joe-Paterno-s-rule-far-reaching-former-Penn-State-official-says)</p>

<p>The article by John Amaechi is inspiring–so thoughtful, so caring, and so eloquent. I don’t know what he does for a living, but I hope writing is involved–he’s good!</p>

<p>bclintok</p>

<p>Thanks. USAtoday did a better job of reporting by including the name of the asst. coach involved. Now there’s no need to wonder.</p>

<p>garland, John Amaechi is a former professional basketball player in the NBA and in England; according to Wikipedia, this is what he does now:</p>

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<p>He’s also well known for being the first and (I think) the only current or former NBA player to come out as gay.</p>

<p>Ah–thanks, Donna! I hadn’t known anything about him–sounds like a great guy!</p>

<p>I will wager that soon a brave prof will come forward and admit the Joe paterno pressured them about passing football players</p>

<p>The wsj article doesn’t surprise me in the least</p>

<p>One theme I’ve heard alot is: “JoePa couldn’t have done anything about getting Sandusky arrested. He didn’t have any extraordinary power, or any influence over the police.” So much for that line of defense.</p>

<p>From bclintonk’s link:</p>

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<p>Of course, most of us have heard about Paterno’s near-dictator status at Penn State, but investigative journalism has now uncovered specifics.</p>

<p>A radio interview of Kim Jones, PSU alum and sports commentator for YES. Kind of long, but very interesting.</p>

<p>[Jerry</a> Sandusky Case: Penn State Alum Kim Jones Reacts Strongly To Allegations - Around the Empire - SB Nation New York](<a href=“Jerry Sandusky Case: Penn State Alum Kim Jones Reacts Strongly To Allegations - SB Nation New York”>Jerry Sandusky Case: Penn State Alum Kim Jones Reacts Strongly To Allegations - SB Nation New York)</p>