Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>I like the idea of setting aside money from the football program for child abuse awareness/prevention programs. </p>

<p>I don’t understand why Sandusky had keys to the buildings for so long. Change the locks, issue new keys to those who should have them and perhaps some of this would not have happened. Don’t just ask the guy not to shower/use facilities. Actually make sure he can’t get in the building. Call it new security measures.</p>

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<p>See, there you go again. No one is saying they hate the slogan. That’s you putting more importance on it than it deserves. Reading some of the comments here makes it sound like you guys are so full of thinking you’re something special because you’re tied to Penn State, you can’t see the forest for the trees. Maybe not, but that’s how it’s coming across.</p>

<p>To me an important moment was the support of paterno, regardless of his complicity. Treating him like a earthly god. That was Penn state. Time to bring in some fresh people.</p>

<p>What that cabal of men did to protect themselves was horrid</p>

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<p>According to the Penn State student newspaper the “We Are Penn State” was just a simple statement, noble though it might be, made by the team captain back in 1947 and didn’t become a cheer or chant until 30 years later. And when it did get made into a cheer it was all about football, specifically the team’s rivalry with Ohio State, and had nothing to do with civil rights:</p>

<p>[Iconic</a> cheer began in 1977 - The Daily Collegian Online](<a href=“http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2010/10/08/we_are.aspx]Iconic”>http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2010/10/08/we_are.aspx)</p>

<p>Excerpt from the linked article:</p>

<p>" History has it that in the 1940s the Penn State football team canceled a game in an effort to protest traveling south without their black players. And when captain Steve Suhey was asked if there would be further discussion about it, he allegedly said, “No, we are Penn State.”</p>

<p>But up until 1977, there was no “We Are” chant and as much as Penn State fans prefer to give as little credit as possible to rival Ohio State University — it is because of their students that Penn State has one of the most recognizable cheers in the world.</p>

<p>Before Penn State was in the Big 10 conference or any national football titles were won, there were just games played by an independent team. And an away game in Columbus, Ohio — home to the Ohio State Buckeyes — is where the idea of the cheer was first planted.</p>

<p>Bring it on</p>

<p>Dave Eckhart, a cheerleader in 1977 for the Penn State cheerleading team, said the whole squad was in awe of Ohio’s student section when they first heard their “O-H, I-O” cheer overtake the stadium.</p>

<p>“We thought the cheer was cool, and we thought, ‘There’s got to be something like that we can do at Beaver Stadium,’ ” Eckhart said. “We were all sitting around, trying to think of what would resonate.”</p>

<p>They should move the statue of Paterno from Penn State to the State Pen to watch over Sandusky the same way that Joe did—without saying anything.</p>

<p>[Triplett</a>, PSU helped change history | Penn State Sports | CentreDaily.com](<a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2009/02/15/1199050/triplett-psu-helped-change-history.html]Triplett”>http://www.centredaily.com/2009/02/15/1199050/triplett-psu-helped-change-history.html)</p>

<p>I can cite numerous articles on that but I am done. My point was that this is a school wide chant of solidarity and greeting in general and is not meant to be in your face to anyone and is certainly not all about football.</p>

<p>PSU needs to emulate Suhey now and take a stand in some meaningful way to make amends.</p>

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<p>Penn State already donated the money they received from their 2011 conference bowl game proceeds. </p>

<p><a href=“https://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/penn-state-puts-football-money-into-abuse-research-center/42969[/url]”>https://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/penn-state-puts-football-money-into-abuse-research-center/42969&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“Pennsylvania State University has put $1.1-million of its Big Ten bowl proceeds into its newly established Center for the Protection of Children, the university has announced. The center, established in the wake of the child-sex-abuse scandal at Penn State, will offer treatment for abused children and sponsor research into the prevention, detection, and treatment of abuse.”</p>
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<p>That’s a good start, thanks for the link Grcxx3.</p>

<p>I hope the money continues to flow into the Center for Protection of Childern, it looks like a good program. Of course, the victims must be cared for (therapy, etc).</p>

<p>The whole situation is just sad. Incredibly sad.</p>

<p>agreed, a good start. and the program sounds good…wonder how well it’s coming together?</p>

<p>Also, I think a percentage of PSU Football’s profit should fund the Center for protection of children. $1million doesn’t go very far given the goals set on the website.</p>

<p>By establishing an alliance of clinicians, scientists, legal scholars, and educators to focus on improving detection, treatment, and prevention of child maltreatment, the Penn State Hershey Center for the Protection of Children (PSHCPC) will bridge these gaps and become a national leader in clinical care, research, education, and direction of policy. Pioneering an integrated, interdisciplinary approach to addressing the crimes of child abuse and neglect and the needs of their victims, the center will:</p>

<p>— Provide comprehensive medical diagnosis and treatment by a team that includes one of the first physicians certified by the American Board of Pediatrics in child abuse pediatrics as well as social workers and other medical and mental health professionals</p>

<p>— Create a primary care clinic for foster children and a child traumatic stress treatment center, putting PSHCPC on par with top centers of excellence in the field</p>

<p>— Collaborate with Penn State Dickinson School of Law to develop a medical-legal partnership for victim advocacy, institute an annual symposium on child sexual abuse, and develop academic courses on child welfare law and policy</p>

<p>— Offer educational programs to promote adult responsibility for the protection of children on Penn State’s campuses and in the communities we serve</p>

<p>— Train future generations of health care professionals through the accreditation of a fellowship program in child abuse pediatrics and through the further integration of child abuse awareness and treatment into our medical school curriculum</p>

<p>— Cultivate existing and emerging research efforts on topics such as Shaken Baby Syndrome and the detection of child abuse</p>

<p>myturnnow.Nice ideas. You ought to put that in an email to president erickson. He is very responsive and I would not be surprised if you heard from him in short order.</p>

<p>Email: <a href=“mailto:president@psu.edu”>president@psu.edu</a></p>

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<p>Not to mention the then-president, who announced his support for the two indicted senior officials before any of the facts were in. Protect the brand at all costs.</p>

<p>Yes, I know they got rid of him. But that doesn’t mean that the attitude has changed.</p>

<p>thank you Sax, I think I will email Erickson. As a mental health professional I truly hope the childrens’ program continues to be well funded, otherwise it is only a paper program. I also would think they could get local mental health professionals to donate services.</p>

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<p>Check out the Progress section of the PSU website. It is “the University’s official information resource designed to anchor communications discussing difficult issues from the last year, including ongoing legal matters, in addition to providing updates on the initiatives we’ve put in place to address the serious issue of child abuse.”</p>

<p>From this webpage -
[Penn</a> State releases statement on Sandusky trial: June 22, 2012 | Progress](<a href=“http://progress.psu.edu/resource-library/story/penn-state-releases-statement-on-sandusky-trial-june-22-2012]Penn”>http://progress.psu.edu/resource-library/story/penn-state-releases-statement-on-sandusky-trial-june-22-2012)</p>

<p>In this same section you will also find…</p>

<p>[Penn</a> State donates more than $2.6 million to abuse prevention efforts | Progress](<a href=“http://progress.psu.edu/resource-library/story/penn-state-donates-more-than-2.6-million-to-abuse-prevention-efforts]Penn”>http://progress.psu.edu/resource-library/story/penn-state-donates-more-than-2.6-million-to-abuse-prevention-efforts)</p>
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<p>Why does the law allow for punitive damages in lawsuits? Because large awards get the attention of the negligent and criminal corporations. In the same way, our society needs to get the attention of these large football-driven universities. I do feel bad for many worthy PSU alums, staff, faculty and students who were nowhere near this scandal, but the needs of us all make it imperative to stop condoning child abuse. If Penn State is sanctioned, caused to stop their football program for a period, or otherwise made to drastically alter their sports culture, it will serve as giant notice to all such programs across the country. It will, in fact, make it easier for all of the individuals in such programs to speak up when any similar crime is committed. The alternative–even to the sports obsessed on any big team campus–will clear. PSU worshipped Paterno, loved their football culture, and now is paying the price of ignoring the damage those men did. I think it would be wrong if nothing more came from these terrible crimes and cover-ups than a university saying they feel bad. That’s not a big enough lesson.</p>

<p>You guys act like Penn State is the only group to ever get caught up in a scandal…</p>

<p>2.6million is a drop in the bucket. It’s almost insulting. Paterno made 1million a year. Spanier makes over a million. So we are talking tWo penn state salaries. Big deal.</p>

<p>It’s not just a scandal. It’s the coverup of child abuse. Sme of us think that’s a bit of a big deal.</p>

<p>So this program that should be suspended should be donating all of its revenues (that wouldn’t exist) just like that. You are unbelievable. </p>

<p>Seahorsesrock, you wouldn’t be satisfied with any answer Penn State were to give.</p>

<p>This is a different subject, but I see the child abuse within the Catholic has come up here. This priest, known around here as Fr. Bill, was whisked out of Florida when accused of child abuse in 1987. So he ended up here in New York until 2002, where I met him, not knowing his background. And you know where I met him? At the day camp for 8-14 yr. olds I was sending my kids to. He was running it. As far as I know, he didn’t abuse anyone at the camp, probably because there weren’t any sleepovers. But how on earth could the church let him run a camp for kids?</p>

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<p>Bingo. There is absolutely NOTHING Penn State could do that would make Seahorsesrock happy.</p>