<p>Slightly OT and local to DC, but to the same point about people standing by and doing nothing:
[The</a> bystander effect: Why those who heard the Lululemon murder didn’t help - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-bystander-effect-why-those-who-heard-the-lululemon-murder-didnt-help/2011/11/03/gIQAHIWYmM_story.html]The”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-bystander-effect-why-those-who-heard-the-lululemon-murder-didnt-help/2011/11/03/gIQAHIWYmM_story.html)</p>
<p>AM17- Please refrain from blaming the victims! </p>
<p>Those young boys were already disadvantaged and from broken homes, otherwise they would not have been in the Second Mile program. How on earth would they be empowered to notify the proper authorities? They were in shock, humiliated and probably physically injured, hardly prepared to know the next step after victimization.</p>
<p>Sheez.</p>
<p>^^ In the Kitty Genovese case, it was widely thought that everyone in the building thought someone else would report it, and no one did. That rational does not explain why one person witnesses and does not act.</p>
<p>AM17 - No one is giving Sandusky a pass. He is now in the hands of the justice system.</p>
<p>fauve, I didn’t write it - thought that was pretty obvious.</p>
<p>AM17, I didn’t have the chance to read your entire post yet, but I will say that I’d do the Culpability Chart a little differently: They ALL are number 1 on that list. Every single one of them had a duty to report this. </p>
<p>Actually, I’d put Paterna at 1A. The reason everyone else was afraid to report was that they didn’t want to run afoul of JoePa.</p>
<p>LasMa, I’m glad you think you know the motives of others for not reporting it (being afraid of Joe Paterno) - congratulations for having more information than the rest of us!</p>
<p>As big as he is to Penn State, he is still just a football coach. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely, he admitted to them. But to put him 1A and not the other administrators to whom he took the information - INCLUDING the head of the Penn State police - and then THEY were the ones who sat on their hands and covered it up? That’s just plain irresponsible and irrational.</p>
<p>No, it was not clear. I understood you to be the ‘outsider’ sharing his thoughts. There are no quotation marks or citation from your source.</p>
<p>That’s why PSU as an institution should be suspended from the BIG immediately pending the outcomes. Just erasing pictures is not enough.</p>
<p>[State</a> College mural artist paints over image of Sandusky | Penn State Scandal/Jerry Sandusky case | CentreDaily.com](<a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/09/2979996/state-college-mural-artist-paints.html]State”>http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/09/2979996/state-college-mural-artist-paints.html)</p>
<p>Her* and no, it was posted on Facebook so no way to direct link to it. Too late to edit.</p>
<p>AM17 - I am horrified you would even bring up the victims - young, innocent disadvantaged youth. In addition, to suggest McQuaery was also an “indirect victim” is ludicrous - he was an adult, a grown man of 28 - in no way, shape of form a “victim”. Sure, it was certainly shocking - but I guess not shocking enough in his book that he never did anything else about it.</p>
<p>dwhite, I didn’t write it. I wrote that the first time I tried to post it, and forgot to add it my second attempt. Too late to edit. I agree that portion is harsh and unnecessary.</p>
<p>AM17 - you must have missed several posts that could appreciate McQuearys position.</p>
<p>College towns are extremely insular environments. You can say that he was just a coach but he is worshipped in State College. Of course the others looked to his lead.</p>
<p>@AM17 – I got that you didn’t write it .</p>
<p>Another ironic tidbit…</p>
<p>Spanier is Founding editor of the Journal of Family Issues and a sociologist.</p>
<p>To be clear, the Grand Jury report says the graduate assistant told Paterno what he saw. If there was any discrepancy in the testimony between the graduate assistant and Paterno as to what was said, the Grand Jury’s report would have said that. Think about it: the graduate assistant testifies and Paterno testifies and the report notes Paterno was told, not that there was any difference in memory. This means Paterno was told. He knew. He knew. He then told a different version to the athletic director - by Paterno’s own testimony, he said something about fondling and sexual activity, not rape. The Grand Jury pointed that out to make clear what Paterno said in his testimony. </p>
<p>It’s all there in the report. Paterno was told a child was anally raped by Sandusky. Paterno then told the athletic director a sanitized version of this.</p>
<p>So it appears they didn’t notify the police or the charity that there was a problem. And not one of these men decided on their own to do the right thing, and instead kept a molester under their roof for years and years and that is in fact approval of thhe actions of the molester, as sandusky was aware his comrades knew he had abused at least one boy and did nothing but take away some keys. Doing nothing is in fact approving the behavior. All of them need firing, and Penn should be ashamed for putting reputation and football above little boys. </p>
<p>And if little boys see that grown men see what’s happening and do nothing, how do you expect them to trust adults and report, and btw several boys did and because it’s Penn state it was basically brushed under the rug</p>
<p>
I’m glad you mentioned that case, since we all “know” what happened there. Only we don’t. There was a chapter about it in “Superfreakonomics.” It’s worth reading.</p>
<p>Also, it’s not “all” there in the Grand Jury report. Far from it.</p>
<p>I have been away from the thread all day so if this has been posted I am sorry-</p>
<p>Does anyone know how the DA knew about the 2002 assault? Who told her or her office?</p>
<p>to those who are trying to give a benefit of doubt to Joe Paterno, saying, he probably did not hear the graphic description of what the GA saw (which, by the way, I doubt it!), but only got the impression that Sandusky was naked with a naked boy, fondling the boy and what not, I ask this ONE question.</p>
<p>Would Joe Paterno have looked the other way after putting a check mark on “what he was supposed to do” if someone did it to his grand kid? If someone told him that a grown man is groping his grand kid (even fully clothed), would he have said “oh, they are just having fun?”</p>
<p>If yes, he is an imbecile and does not deserve to have grand kids. If no, then he CLEARLY smart enough to know what was happening and CHOSE not to do anything because he would complicate his life and his beloved football career. </p>
<p>Please, please do not tell me that it was not his responsibility or his fault. If he was good enough to bask in ALL the glory that took place with him at the helm, it’s a fair game also to blame him for this magnitude of ills. He was the core foundation of the culture at Penn State football enterprise. The culture of silence and complicity bears the mark of his leadership. </p>
<p>AND, note: all this happened around the same time the Catholic church scandal was rocking the church’s core foundation. They saw what was happening to Catholic church. If Joe Paterno at that time was truly did not think fondling of naked boys in shower by a naked man was nothing serious enough to act, he is the biggest moron in world. </p>
<p>I also find it very telling that students were demanding the president resignation but rallying in support of Joe Paterno. I now know what their priorities are. </p>
<p>This is what overblown football enterprise culture did to an academic institution where football is more important that the basic core mission of the institution: education! We are no longer talking about character building collegiate sports, but a commercial enterprise that corrupted the heart and soul of an academic institution.</p>
<p>perfect timing: I just read this:</p>
<p>[In</a> Penn State, some see Boston scandal parallels - seattlepi.com](<a href=“http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/In-Penn-State-some-see-Boston-scandal-parallels-2260567.php]In”>http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/In-Penn-State-some-see-Boston-scandal-parallels-2260567.php)</p>
<p>Note that the article talks about 2002 Boston Catholic Church hierarchy. Exactly the same time the 2002 GA witnessing took place.</p>
<p>This was ALL over the news. How could Joe Paterno possibly think horsing around between a naked grown man and a naked child will pass the smell test EVEN IF we stretch our credulity and decided to give him a maximum benefit of doubt that he did not know that there was actually rape involved.</p>