<p>Can anyone decipher what Paterno said on his front lawn last night? I am unable to find a ‘transcript’ of it, and he is mumbly, but he is certainly basking in the adulation of the student crowd.</p>
<p>Some of what he said sounded really callous.</p>
<p>He said to the students that there being there meant a lot to him and he told them to pray for the victims and their families.</p>
<p>Haven’t seen this linked yet, sorry if it’s a duplicate. [Coming</a> Clean Is Only Play for Penn State, Paterno: Harlan Coben - Bloomberg](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>
<p>this is some of it …“you guys don’t know how much this means to me…I’ve lived for this place…it means so much to see you all…but the kids are the victims…**Tough life,when people do certain things to you. ** But anyway, you’ve been great.”</p>
<p>…but anyway…???</p>
<p>wow</p>
<p>Wow. After reading thru this thread for the past day or so, let me make this observation:</p>
<p>I hope 90% of the posters on this thread are never called to jury duty.</p>
<p>Amen</p>
<p>It would be nice to see a single news article that wasn’t written with the dual aims of selling papers and trashing someone with accomplishments. Welcome to journalism.</p>
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<p>Might you be willing to explain why you would think so? Do you perceive the reactions of posters to the information currently available as greatly different from what it is outside of Happy Valley?</p>
<p>For what it is worth, one could hope that the court of public opinion will not be as lenient as the “real” world where money and power might be sufficient to bury the truth and settlements enough to protect the once reputable. </p>
<p>This is not a case of selling rings and getting your family accomodations. This is about crimes against the most innocent and fragile among us. Crimes that were deliberately ignored by people who knew better and looked for a fig leave to protect their abject lack of responsibility.</p>
<p>Oh PLEASE. This is the most egregious scandal in the history of college sports. Much of the evidence is aleady on record and revolting. There will be much more. Rarely are there two eyewitnesses to such rapes. And his own earlier washed over admissions of improper conduct and being a “bad man”. What do you need?</p>
<p>[Madden:</a> Sandusky a State secret - Timesonline.com: Mark Madden:](<a href=“http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area]Madden:”>http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area)</p>
<p>Trashing someone with accomplisments? You are kidding right? He is not being criticized for fixing a player’s parking ticket…He ,at the very minimum,was told of a sexual abuse of a boy in HIS football facility,and just pushed it up the chain…without EVER following up to see what happened…this is a fact…</p>
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<p>really? he trashed himself. and every word that he spoke yesterday only makes him sound worse.
Today, when he announced his “retirement” he said that he is doing this to make things easier for Penn State, and that the Board should not have to focus on him right now when they have more important matters.
yup</p>
<p>“It would be nice to see a single news article that wasn’t written with the dual aims of selling papers and trashing someone with accomplishments. Welcome to journalism.”</p>
<p>Those awful journalists! Shame on them. And they have the public trust!</p>
<p>I have a couple of questions- we know Paterno took the information he had to the AD and that a meeting was set up with the GA the AD and Schultz who was in charge of the campus police. If that meeting resulted in an investigation and trial did Paterno do enough?</p>
<p>“Might you be willing to explain why you would think so?” </p>
<p>sure. here’s why. </p>
<p>A grand jury investigated this for months, and pressed charges against 3 people. From afar, the vast majority of folks on this thread have not only charged Paterno, McQueary, etc., they’ve convicted them. </p>
<p>I have no dog in the PSU game. In fact, I’m a lifelong PA resident who’s more a “PSU hater”. But I withhold judgment til I have all the facts. </p>
<p>I couldn’t have more sympathy for the victims in this case. I couldn’t have more disgust for the acts Sandusky is accused of. I just can’t bring up the same level of venom toward Paterno, McQueary, etc. that the rest of you can. </p>
<p>Earlier in this thread, JHS and ALH offerred alternate theories that fit within the bounds of the grand jury report. But there are many who can’t consider those theories for even a minute. Those are the folks who, in my opinion, wouldn’t make good jurors.</p>
<p>That meeting didn’t result in an investigation…the investigation came years after the meeting,i believe 5-6 years…2002 was the incident GA saw, investigation started 3±years ago</p>
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<p>Shame on you. The issue has never been whether Joe Paterno was guilty of a criminal act; rather, the issue was whether he did enough. He himself has acknowledged that he did not.</p>
<p>Do any of you know whether or not Paterno was told the 2002 incident was investigated?</p>
<p>The Madden piece barrons linked to in post #567 really raises the right question. Sandusky was a very powerful and very successful figure in the college football coaching world: defensive coordinator at Penn State, a school that always had powerful defenses, the architect who built Penn State’s national reputation as “Linebacker U.” He was first accused of improper sexual contact with a child in 1998. He resigned his coaching position in 1999 at age 55. At the time he walked away, everyone thought he was Joe Paterno’s heir apparent, or at the very least that he would end up with a head coaching position at another major football program. But he just quietly walked away without much of an explanation, other than the usual feeble “more time with my family and wanting to devote more time to my charity,” which of course is where he recruited his victims. He never sought another college football coaching position. Is the timing just coincidental? Or did Penn State cut a deal after an internal investigation, that they would just let him slip quietly into the community so as not to besmirch Penn State’s reputation—and in so doing, provided cover for this predator to continue to prey on young boys? If the latter, it’s just so shocking and repulsive that the whole lot of them ought to go to prison for a very, very long time. It’s so awful to contemplate that I just don’t want to believe it. But the timing and the circumstances of Sandusky’s departure are just too strange, too inexplicable otherwise, that you just start to think that it might be true.</p>
<p>And why in heaven’s name would Penn State continue to allow this monster access to its facilities after the 1998 incident? It sounds like Sandusky’s continued access to the Penn State football program was something he actively used to recruit these boys into situations where he could molest them. Penn State officials knew about the 1998 incident, which took place in the showers at the football facility locker room. Why would you EVER let someone against whom that allegation had been made come back? Repeatedly. Young boys in tow. Just appalling, the lack of any moral compass. And then allegedly to lie about it, to cover it up and impede the investigation? The university’s role in all this is as shocking and repulsive as Sandusky’s.</p>
<p>I’m not going to put it all on Joe Pa who is by now a doddering old man. But it happened on his watch, in his facility. I’m sorry, he doesn’t get to retire with dignity intact at the end of the season. He needs to go now. Before Saturday. Nebraska should muster up the moral courage to say they won’t play if Joe Pa is on the sideline.</p>
<p>Now the feds are investigating too:</p>
<p>[Open</a> Channel - Feds investigate if Penn State officials violated US law](<a href=“http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/09/8722765-feds-investigate-if-penn-state-officials-violated-us-law]Open”>http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/09/8722765-feds-investigate-if-penn-state-officials-violated-us-law)</p>
<p>Justin Hamilton, a spokesman for Education Secretary Arne Duncan, confirmed to NBC News that the department was launching a probe into whether there were possible violations of a federal law called the Clery Act. It requires colleges and universities to publish and distribute information about criminal offenses – including sex offenses – that are reported to school authorities.</p>
<p>I don’t have a problem with the people who have been posting on this thread serving on a jury. There is a difference between an emotional reaction posted on a message board and whether one can carry out their duties as a jurist. On a jury you have the benefit of instruction from the judge, time to consider the evidence, time to deliberate with the other jurors and time to consider the distinction between what you would like to do and what is legally defensible. At the very least the posters on this thread have demonstrated an enormous amount of compassion for the kids in this scandal.</p>
<p>katliamom- under the circumstance I believe a federal investigation to see if the Clery Act was violated is a necessary step.</p>