<p>[Joe</a> Paterno had negotiated exit package - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8166042/report-joe-paterno-had-negotiated-exit-package]Joe”>Report -- Joe Paterno had negotiated exit package - ESPN)</p>
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<p>If there are any lingering doubts about the preeminent power which JoePa had at Penn State, this should lay them to rest. While on the legal hot seat, he was able to negotiate a luxurious package. After the story broke, he was able to make it stick.</p>
<p>For those who think the university is separate from its football program.</p>
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<p>Have you heard about Rene Portland? She was the PSU women’s basketball coach and for years openly practiced a policy of kicking women that she suspected were lesbian off of her team. She was sued in 2006 and finally forced to resign in 2007, but many WBB fans had been pushing for harsher repercussions including her resignation for years before that. PSU let her stay because she was good friends with Joe Paterno and he wanted her to stay.</p>
<p>[‘Training</a> Rules’ casts personal shadows over Rene Portland controversy](<a href=“http://www.outsports.com/os/index.php/component/content/article/41-2009/220-training-rules-casts-personal-shadows-over-rene-portland-controversy]'Training”>http://www.outsports.com/os/index.php/component/content/article/41-2009/220-training-rules-casts-personal-shadows-over-rene-portland-controversy)</p>
<p>This question may have been answered already- does the NCAA have any legal concern in this? For instance, did the recruiting and retention of Penn State football players come into this picture as any wrong doing?</p>
<p>[Buzz</a> Bissinger: Ban Penn State Football! - The Daily Beast](<a href=“Buzz Bissinger: Ban Penn State Football!”>Buzz Bissinger: Ban Penn State Football!)</p>
<p>Where are the adults at Penn State? Where are the faculty members “whose academic integrity is not in question”? Where are the heads of the other athletic departments? Are they all so tainted by the $50 million in annual football profits?</p>
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<p>Wow. How did Paterno pick his friends, one wonders.</p>
<p>" Honoring Paterno is not a “sensitive issue.” It’s a non-issue. What is there to honor about about a man who has dishonored himself? " </p>
<p>I know several sheeple who are PSU alum that still adore him…one woman has her FB Profile pic of her standing next to his statue with a hand made sign that reads " We STILL love you JoePa " </p>
<p>I do not know one single alum that doesn’t still adore him and praise him as if her were a God</p>
<p>PSU is a cult and I would never consider letting my child attend</p>
<p>lje62- you have now met one online that does not praise paterno. PSU alum here- never into the cult -never went to a football game- did take pride in the team ethics- not now. I am in the psych field- even in this field I find this totally repulsive and not at all excusable- perhaps I am even harder than some due to the feeling that we are totally responsible for our actions and inactions. My education was very good and i cannot take that away from them.</p>
<p>Congrats, rockymtnhigh, for avoiding living in the bubble. </p>
<p>It certainly appears that many PSU-ers have some sort of reality that exists only at Penn State. For the board to make the statement, ‘honoring Paterno is a sensitive issue’, for anyone to say the world made Paterno a hero, as if the world gives a damn about Paterno, leads me to think there is a disconnect between the reality, for some, at Penn State and the real world. For some to say they don’t understand the outrage, and they need time to grieve Paterno’s memory, is kind of scary. JMO</p>
<p>For all the others who attended Penn State and took advantage of the academics without drinking the Koolaid, congrats.</p>
<p>From mini’s link:</p>
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Sad, very sad, but probably true.</p>
<p>Isn’t the STATE of Pennsylvania and the Governor responsible at some level for what went on? Where are the Senators/Congressmen/Governor doing in this? Is Penn State that powerful, and its the tail wagging the dog?<br>
As far as sports go, look at the steroid use in pro sports, Congress were all over the ADULTS doing stupid things, </p>
<p>Again who in the STATE of Pennsylvania is looking out for the CHILDREN of Pennsylvania?</p>
<p>The world definitely did help make Paterno a hero, as it does other sports figures, celebutantes, “entertainment figures” and pop singers. Sports Illustrated, ABC, ESPN, and the like push the names that get them reaction and all its money. I don’t think PSU alum were any more dedicated to their U than those at the SEC or PAC10 schools. </p>
<p>The trustees are waiting for passions to cool in order to avoid a riot when they take the statue down. You only need .001% of the students to be clueless idiots and then .002% join up for the hell of it, and you’ve got property damage. There’s already a security detail there to prevent any incidents of pro- versus con- people colliding at the site. If they wait, nobody will care anymore. If you doubt that, ask why all the threads about Paterno/Sandusky/PSU were dark between the arraignment, the trial and the Freeh report. Because we forgot to talk about it. The media reminds us, and we go back to it. I agree that the wait is painful to see, but if it avoids material damage in town then I suppose it has to be tolerated. But that statue is toast. I don’t know any grads who DO think it should stay…</p>
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<p>It might be wise if the alumni and former players were capable of thinking rationally about Paterno. But apparently many of them were and still are so drenched in Paterno-worship that they simply cannot grasp the realities that are so obvious to those outside the Penn State bubble. Do you think a commission composed of alumni and former players would have uncovered all the same wrongdoings and come to the same conclusions that the Freeh team did? Yeah, fat chance.</p>
<p>As in a baseball game, the Penn Staters need an umpire who is not a member of the team to call the balls and strikes on Paterno.</p>
<p>To be honest, I never heard of Paterno before all this, and I know I’m not alone. Paterno was a god only in US college football. To those outsiders that follow it, they probably knew his name. I strongly doubt they would be sad if his statue comes down. The world couldn’t care less about his football achievements.</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that the Board of Trustees, led by the college President, in full academic regalia, should TOMORROW march over to the statue with sledgehammers and take it down. I would bet that alumni contributions would SOAR! (and I’d send one, too.) But even if they didn’t, it would be the right thing to do, and begin to restore some credibility and integrity to the place.</p>
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Eh,I wouldn’t go that far. Outside PA and before this Sandusky incident very few recognize the name Paterno and only associate Penn State with football.</p>
<p>So the trustees took NO measures against Spanier, Curley, Schultz in light of the Freeh report. </p>
<p>Spanier is still a prof, being paid. And Curley and Schultz are on leave iirc but having their defense paid for by the university.</p>
<p>But hey–they did do ONE thing. They reduced the trustee term from 15 to 12 years–I’m sure that’ll make a huge difference…</p>
<p>I think Paterno was known outside Pennsylvania as was Penn State. He was fairly well known in Iowa. Of course, that is another state where football is pretty important.</p>
<p>[Penn</a> State could pay $100 million in civil damages to Sandusky’s victims and lose public funding - Yahoo! Sports](<a href=“Penn State could pay $100 million in civil damages to Sandusky's victims and lose public funding”>Penn State could pay $100 million in civil damages to Sandusky's victims and lose public funding)</p>
<p>Penn State could lose ALL federal aid. (including all aid given to students)</p>
<p>I would say the Iowans that follow college football knew the Paterno name. Did Iowans think of him as a hero? Just curious. </p>
<p>Before this scandal, he was nowhere near a household name. And I agree with cbreeze, the overall impression of Penn State to outsiders was football.</p>
<p>Under Title IX, OCR will only open a complaint investigation if one of the alleged acts of discrimination occurred within 180 days previous to the complaint being filed. They could, however, open a Title IX compliance review, which would look at practices and procedures. </p>
<p>Let’s see how Title IX would look at the issues. Title IX covers discrimination on the basis of sex in educational programs or activities, which would include sexual harassment. What educational program or activity were the children being denied by the sexual assaults? It is possible that some of them were participating in some activity on the PSU campus like camps. If so they would be covered. OCR could also cover them because they were in fact on campus and using athletic facilities.</p>
<p>Now suppose OCR does open a complaint or compliance review, and does find a violation, what’s the remedy? Funds would only be terminated if they fail to accept the remedies proposed by OCR and after there had been either an administrative hearing relating to fund termination or OCR refers the matter to the Justice Department to take to Federal Court. </p>
<p>In all the time I was in OCR fund termination only occurred once and it happened because the recipient denied OCR access. Recipients always settle up early in the process even before a violation letter is issued, which is they way OCR prefers it. Even if there was a movement for fund termination, the bulk of Federal funds to PSU doesn’t come from Education. They probably comes from the science agencies like NASA, NSF, DOE and from Agriculture. They would have to join in the fund termination. Some of the funding money is probably for research vital to the country so it is doubtful that it would be terminated. Education funds primarily goes for student grants and loans. I doubt that that would ever be terminated at a school like PSU.</p>
<p>As to remedies, very rarely is their actual cash involved. Some exceptions would occur if their were unreimbursed medical or psychological expenses, or moving expenses, or something like that. It would be for actual costs, not damages. I’m having a hard time thinking what the remedies would be. They would be forward looking, and would mostly be administrative relating to ensuring events like this don’t happen and there is some kind of internal reporting mechanism.</p>