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<p>I wouldn’t disagree with this.</p>
<p>Nice post, greenbutton.</p>
<p>I do not understand why Curley and Schultz haven’t been dismissed as well. Why just throw Paterno and the president under the bus? They were all guilty of failing to act. The Indictment says they found Curley and Schultz’s testimony (claiming they were merely told that Sandusky and the kid were “horsing around”) to lack credibility. And out of curiosity, why did it take so long for this indictment to be handed down by the state attorney general? Does it really take two years to collect all this evidence, after a parent reported to the police in 2009 that their child had been molested for four years. Understand that they need to collect evidence, but Sandusky was allowed to continue this behavior since the very first report in 1998. There are a lot of people that can take some ownership of this tragedy, IMO.</p>
<p>Alos find it perplexing why BOT didn’t throw the AD and VP out last night also…</p>
<p>greenbutton…it’s not about the people of Penn State, and certainly not about the people living nearby. It’s about the victims and who let this happen.</p>
<p>jym, I wondered about that, too. Why aren’t Curley and Schultz fired? They are certainly gulitier than Paterno unless Paterno instructed them to cover it all up. I think students have a good reason to be mad at the trustees. They can’t fire Paterno before they fire Curley and Schultz.</p>
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<p>That won’t be addressed if you make hasty judgement.</p>
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<p>We visited Penn State when my second D was considering schools. The school spirit is evident in every, and I mean every, interaction that you have there. We got totally sucked into it during the short time that we were there. By the end of day one we felt that “WE WERE PENN STATE” too. It was only later after stepping away from it that we felt it was uncomfortable cultish in its intensity.</p>
<p>This is no ordinary school identity. The students there live and breath Penn State. It is hard to explain unless you see it for yourself.</p>
<p>"Why aren’t Curley and Schultz fired? They are certainly gulitier than Paterno "</p>
<p>Damage control. Curley and Schultz will not be on TV this Saturday afternoon if they stay in their jobs. </p>
<p>Not to mention, they were formally charged, and may have some legal protections that Paterno and the president do not.</p>
<p>How is that fair for Paterno? It is not far fetched to think Paterno is a scapegoat used for damage control. And students are mad. They should be. We parents here are fanning the flame calling for the head of a man who is least guilty in this matter. Did he instruct others to cover it up to deserve this?</p>
<p>.students should be mad?.. Oh please…this story stinks to high heaven and I bet more to follow.</p>
<p>It’s becoming obvious that Sandusky’s “retirement” in 1999 was the start of the cover up.</p>
<p>I think “fair” left the station years ago. Many of these people have been on borrowed time since 1998. I am just so amazed this has not been exposed before now.</p>
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<p>In the case of Schultz, it’s pretty hard to fire somebody who has already retired.</p>
<p>And how many of the fine young men on the football team have stepped forward and said, “I’m not willing to appear on Saturday as a representative of this evil place?”</p>
<p>So much for athletics allegedly building character. More like blind loyalty.</p>
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<p>He was retired, but working on a part-time basis while they worked to fill the position…</p>
<p>I looked at the coaching staff bios, and it appears Penn State should only have two coaches on the sideline Saturday. Every other coach was on staff when these incidents are said to have occurred. Do we think the former GA will be on the sideline Saturday?</p>
<p>@ annasdad : I’m perplexed by the vitriol. Fumigate the place? Really? “Fine young men” boycotting – nice use of mean spirited sarcasm. Would you like them to walk away from their obligations, scholarships and classes? Their charity work and volunteering? (yeah, they do a lot of that.) To demonstrate what, exactly? Rejction of abhorrent, repulsive behavior of a man most of them have never even met? It’s bad enough, hard enough, without piling on. And no, it was not a violent riot, per se, as measured by damage and degree and duration. Our police always (as do those in Ann Arbor, etc…) use spray and gas to disperse large crowds. Faster, simpler, safer. But we are parsing words, yes, it was a large crowd of people gathered doing something other than studying. Yes, a truck was overturned by idiots. Okay. </p>
<p>@geeps: nobody is minimizing the victims’ role. but tragedy is not some pie that we cut up and then it’s gone so the most miserable are the only ones deserving a piece. You make my point, precisely. It is about the abuse victims. It is also about outside people vilifying a town based on news reports. Unless of course, you do live here too. For evidence of this attitude, you need look no further than annasdad wholesale condemnation of entire groups of PSU people as “disgusting”.</p>
<p>But carry on, all. Wouldn’t want to get in the way of continuing the anger rather than discussing the issue of abuse, and how to institutionally guard against it.</p>
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<p>How clever! Let me rephrase my question; Why isn’t Curley fired? Do you have an answer to that?</p>
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<p>This is a cop-out to justify our hysteria.</p>
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<p>I imagine the eight (or nine, or ?) young men felt the same way when they were not only criminally violated but then saw the violator protected by the vile culture that obtains in Happy Valley.</p>
<p>does sound like a cult down there in happy valley…gotta protect your own?..amazing attitude.</p>
<p>I would imagine that Curley was put on administrative leave as an instinctive knee-jerk reaction. Since he was actually charged, the school could not fire him based on charges alone. He can and will be fired at some point.</p>
<p>Joe P. on the other hand, made the mistake of being arrogant and full of himself post Nov.4</p>
<p>If he had announced that he was “resigning with immediate effect” and expressed his sorrow and remorse, instead of “retiring at the end of the season” he could have somewhat redeemed himself and saved himself from being fired.</p>
<p>The Board did the right thing last night.</p>
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<p>Yes, but then he re-retired after he was indicted.</p>
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<p>I agree completely. And would add that he should be telling the students that gathered to support him that their support is unwarranted and inappropriate, and they should dispurse immediately.</p>