Penn State Sandusky scandal

[dadinator]

<p>Yes, that would be correct - Paterno at $1.02MM:</p>

<p>[Joe</a> Paterno remains highest-paid Penn State employee at $1 million+ | PennLive.com](<a href=“http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/05/joe_paterno_remains_highest-pa.html]Joe”>Joe Paterno remains highest-paid Penn State employee at $1 million+ - pennlive.com)</p>

[poetgrl]

<p>Hunt the sports camps run by colleges are actually recruiting camps and they are staffed by coaches from the program and run by the program. In the case of Penn State, the QB coach who witnessed the rape in the shower runs the camp.</p>

<p>My daughter is a recruited athlete. The id camps are not a seperate entity from the athletic department.</p>

[Hunt]

<p>I can understand the following, but it seems a bit cockroach-like to me:</p>

<p>[Pa</a>. senators rescind medal nomination for Paterno | Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/10/2011](<a href=“http://www.philly.com/philly/news/133629998.html]Pa”>http://www.philly.com/philly/news/133629998.html)</p>

[dadinator]

<p>As colleges do have students under the age of 18, they should be intimately aware of and are required to comply with Pennsylvania’s requirements under the Child Protective Services Law.</p>

[cartera45]

<p>Curley is getting de-awarded also. </p>

<p>[Penn</a> State Nittany Lions former AD Tim Curley won’t get award - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7212749/penn-state-nittany-lions-former-ad-tim-curley-get-award]Penn”>Penn State Nittany Lions former AD Tim Curley won't get award - ESPN)</p>

[TutuTaxi]

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Was it about salvaging a reputation? That could have been accomplished by THE MAN himself. He could have stepped aside, asked to be relieved of his public functions, asked a leave of absence, asked for a medical release … all possibilities that would have been granted as long as it meant to NOT lead the PSU football team on the field this week.

I agree with this–indeed, it would have made it more possible for him to rehabilitate his image if his version of the story is different enough from what’s been released. Now, it’s unlikely he’ll be able to do that no matter what he says.

Hunt- yes he will …… think book deal.</p>

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As for Paterno, Curley, and Schultz consulting university counsel in 2002: It didn’t happen. I know it didn’t happen, because there’s no way things would have been left the way they were if counsel had gotten involved.

JHS – I’m not so sure …. but I’ll take your word on that.</p>

[JHS]

<p>curmudgeon:</p>

<p>The text you posted comes from a revised version of the PA mandated reporter law. The statutory language in 2002 was a little bit different, in relevant ways:</p>

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A person who, in the course of their employment, occupation or practice of their profession, come into contact with children shall report or cause a report to be made to the Department of Public Welfare when they have reasonable cause to suspect on the basis of their professional or other training or experience, that a child coming before them in their professional or official capacity is a victim of child abuse.

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<p>The current version is a little bit broader:</p>

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A person who, in the course of their employment, occupation or practice of a profession, comes into contact with children shall report or cause a report to be made in accordance with section 6313 when the person has reasonable cause to suspect, on the basis of their medical, professional or other training and experience, that a child under the care, supervision, guidance or training of that person or of an agency, institution, organization or other entity with which that person is affiliated is a victim of child abuse, including child abuse by an individual who is not a perpetrator, shall report or cause a report to be made in accordance with section 6313.

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[OhioMom3000]

<p>“As colleges do have students under the age of 18, they should be intimately aware of and are required to comply with Pennsylvania’s requirements under the Child Protective Services Law.”</p>

<p>If you work with minors you are made aware of this. It’s like someone said upthread it is not a secret among educators and administrators.</p>

[mokusatsu]

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Paterno (was) the highest paid employee at PSU. His total compensation was over $1,000,000 annually.

Does that include stock options and a profit-sharing plan?</p>

[Stats21]

<p>It is possible the Board made their decision because they felt they needed to act before the Nebraska game. Likely, more information will come out in the days, weeks and months to come. Once we receive that information we all may feel differently. Maybe there is a plausible explanation for the the lack of follow up by Paterno and others; or maybe we will find out that Joe knew more than told the grand jury. </p>

<p>I suspect that when all that is knowable becomes known, Joe, and all of those in the information chain emerge with marred reputations. But we can now await the information, and when we know more, we will know better.</p>

<p>The BOT did not have that luxury.</p>

[OhioMom3000]

<p>^^ It’s total compension. So, I assume yes. His salary is lower.</p>

[midlifedad]

<p>" “My son, a Penn State alumnus, is absolutely crushed by this tragedy. He said it’s as if someone in his own family did something despicable. Although he was once proud to call himself a Penn Stater, he’s said he just feels shame now. He threw all his Penn State gear in the trash yesterday, saying he’ll never get over the betrayal.”</p>

<p>I would tell him it is a few people, not the University as a whole. The University is doing the right thing now. It was a few who kept this under wraps. He should hold his head high."</p>

<p>I would NOT tell him this. I would discuss with him what might be wrong with this University he loves. Perhaps it is the cult of personality that has weakened it, perhaps football has overpowered the university with its power and its money. Thousands of students in the street demonstrating against firing a football coach who did not do what a moral man should do is not a healthy sign for an institution, especially an institution of learning. Your son, should he choose to grapple with this, may be part of the solution.</p>

[OhioMom3000]

<p>“The BOT did not have that luxury.”</p>

<p>The investigation has been going on for 3 years. How long does it take? Everything should be made available to the BOT.</p>

[OhioMom3000]

<p>midlifedad, her son wasn’t in the streets. He was throwing his PSU clothing in the trash. I think he understands the enormity of the situation. I stand by my post.</p>

[Stats21]

<p>The board did not have access to the grand jury hearings or testimony until the presentment was publicly released. The presentment is part of the story, more will emerge. If you were in that position, you would prefer all of the facts to some of the facts. But the reality is they needed to make a decision and I think (assuming they know only what we know) they chose wisely.</p>

[midlifedad]

<p>I agree with you, I believe he does understand the enormity of the situation. Exactly why there is no point to pretend this only involves the few directly implicated.</p>

[parent57]

<p>What do we really know about Paterno’s role in this fiasco. As far as I can tell, he was told about the incident (we don’t know exactly what he was told) in 2002, and he reported it to the administrators of Penn State, one of whom had direct oversight for the campus police. Now what happen subsequent to 2002 with respect to Paterno is conjecture at this point. We don’t know if he was in contact with Sandusky or whatever else he was thinking. Considering he was a busy man, maybe he thought the incident was dealt with by the authorities. My point is until all the facts are fully vetted and we have the opportunity to hear from all the participants, including Paterno, I am going to reserve judgement about Paterno. Maybe I am naive, but I guess it is my nature to want to know all the facts before I decide he is a miscreant.</p>

[cartera45]

<p>I think we may find that some board members knew more than others. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a reorg of the board too. The chair may be on the way out.</p>

[UCBChemEGrad]

<p><a href=“we%20don’t%20know%20exactly%20what%20he%20was%20told”>quote</a> in 2002

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Yes, the Grand Jury Report is light in that detail. However, Paterno’s testimony corroborated with what McQueary testified he told Paterno. That’s why Paterno wasn’t implicated by the Grand Jury.</p>

[ttparent]

<p>parent57, have you read the grand jury presentment?</p>