<p>this is national news everywhere. our local sports show rightly took the time to report on this terrible mess. do you wonder what other university personnel will be announcing their retirements and resignations? sports radio reports that some boosters have been surveyed and they won’t be giving anymore dollars unless changes are made. what’s your opinion? should the head coach leave? my vote is “yes.”</p>
<p>Yes, he should leave. And likely the school president. I don’t care how they parse it and what they were legally obligated to do. They clearly didn’t do enough.</p>
<p>youdon’tsay - if there was a “like” button for your post on here, I’d “like” it. you are right on target !</p>
<p>If I witnessed a sexual assault on a child in a locker room, I would not be able to sleep for I don’t know how many days. My first stop would be the police station and until that man was in jail and I knew that child was safe from further assaults, I seriously would not have been able to do anything else except work to achieve that end.</p>
<p>NBC News, and others I imagine, reported that when the local authorities received the first complaint about Sandusky from a parent, the Sheriff set up a sting operation wherein the mother confronted Sandusky in her home, which was wired with hidden microphones. According to NBC, Sandusky admitted to the shower and improper “touching,” wept and told the mother it was the worst day of his life. Well, what happened to the Sheriff’s official account or transcript of this incident?</p>
<p>It’s very strange. That investigation (of the 1998 incident) was ended by the then-DA, who seven years later disappeared under unusual circumstances and was later declared legally dead.</p>
<p>[Penn</a> State Scandal: Gricar had final say in ending inquiry | Jerry Sandusky case | CentreDaily.com](<a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/06/2976046/gricar-had-final-say-in-ending.html]Penn”>http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/06/2976046/gricar-had-final-say-in-ending.html)</p>
<p>Swept under the rug by PSU supporters…after all, the Sheriff is likley elected, and in PSU land,that would be a bad idea to arrest a PSU coach with the success that Sandusky had and think you could be relected. ;)</p>
<p>do you think that this scandal will somehow make it easier to be accepted?</p>
<p>I just returned from a college info night at a local high school not too far from Happy Valley. It was crowded. Lots of parents and students were navigating the aisles trying to learn about colleges that would be a good fit. But the Penn State table was eerily empty. Sad.</p>
<p>In response to a comment above, in PA. the elected sheriffs have no jurisdiction over criminal charges and arrests. I believe the Penn State police force has the same powers as a municipal police force. There also are police for the Borough of State College. The incidents may have also happened in one of the adjacent townships, which have their own police. For complex matters, local police often rely upon the County District Attorney’s office for an investigation.</p>
<p>Just read the Grand Jury report, and it wasn’t a Sheriff that eavesdropped on the conversation, it was a Detective from PSU police force</p>
<p>Spanier’s goose is cooked, no matter how this goes. As is Curley … I cannot imagine the board and/or administration granting him an “administrative leave.” </p>
<p>In both of these cases, neither can be effective in their roles, and notably, those roles at The Pennsylvania State University … We are …Penn State. Maybe at Alabama or Oklahoma or Miami … but not at Penn State. </p>
<p>The irony here is that the great strength of the U and its football progam … stability, loyalty, commitment, “family” (literally and figuratively) have been great assets in helping Penn State become (along with academic programs and geography) the most significant public university in America. It has regularly been the most applied to place, and altho very late to the game of raising private funds, has become a major player in very short order. And mostly because of the huge number of alumni, virtually all of whom are rabidly faithful and loyal to the place. </p>
<p>It’s almost impossible to imagine the convoluted interconnections among the Board, staff, admin, faculty and community. It is a huge phenomenon guided and influenced by a very small circle of insiders. And of the most part that group has devoted themselves to serving and developing Penn State. Conversely, that scenario has led to monumental nepotism and self-dealing that is virtually inevitable in a circumstance like this one. The failures of Curley, Schultz, and Spanier (not Paterno, despite his being the rockstar whose head many would love to have) are classic illustrations of being lulled into their deception that “we are Penn State” and therefore this won’t be an issue. Circle the wagons. Protect those in need of protection (not the kids, unfortunately). It’s a total delusion and massive arrogance that has led these men to think this wouldn’t touch them. It’s a sad failure on the part of those who’ve been charged with safe-guarding the reputation and responsibilities of Penn State. </p>
<p>Now we’ll see if the Board has the cajonies to do what it must. Oh, btw, did you know who the current Chairman of the Penn State Board of Trustees is? Steve Garban, who is the OTHER VP Emeritus of Finance and Business, hired and promoted Schultz to be his successor. Do you start to get the picture?</p>
<p>It will be painful but there is far more at stake here than this band of merry men and their perks and reputations. This will be straightened away, but not without enormous pain.</p>
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A little hyperbolic, doncha think? (and a bit of a shock to Berkeley, UVa, UMich and others). A few kids from our high school In New England go to Penn State every year. They are never the best and the brightest, generally just decent students who are looking for a big football rah rah college experience. I think even they would be amused to see their school characterized as “the most significant public university”.</p>
<p>I think it’s a shame that big-time sports have become the driver of so many US colleges–they have nothing to do with a university’s mission, and we seem to hear one tale of corruption (monetary or moral) after another. I don’t think colleges in other countries feel the need to take this direction, and I think they’re better off for it.</p>
<p>Spoke with a friend that’s a PSU grad and she said the alumni community is down right steam flying from the ears furious with the administration the moment. </p>
<p>She’s a prominent businesswoman and made it clear she’s not making any further donations to the school until those responsible are fired, put behind bars, etc.</p>
<p>If the board has any sense they’ll be clearing out the house quite soon. Don’t see how president Spanier’s career isn’t abruptly ended following that downright scandelous statement he issued on Saturday.</p>
<p>Sandusky deserves the electric chair.</p>
<p>The rest of them, from the administration through JoePa to the grad assistant (who was 27 or 28 years old), deserve some jail time for facilitating the rape and assault of an untold number of children. Witnessing a fully grown man anally rape a child and not calling the police? Really?</p>
<p>Big time college football is already broken with other people doing students’ work, bribes, under the table cash, etc… but this is so far beyond that.</p>
<p>Wow, this story is really sad and scary, and PSU was actually my first school choice =/</p>
<p>shameful all around.</p>
<p>here’s something I find distressing in and of itself, Sandusky obviously perceived anything he did at PSU as protected. He chose the PSU setting to rape this child and conduct the camp at PSU, he seemed to recognize others would maintain silence around his behaviors. this is sickening</p>
<p>MommaJ why did you just call our PSU as a bad school… that doesn’t have anything to do with this thread.</p>
<p>myturnnow: Here’s an excellent piece that speaks to your point, called “The Dangerous Cocoon of King Football”:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/Penn-State-Paterno-College-Football-George-Vecsey.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/Penn-State-Paterno-College-Football-George-Vecsey.html</a></p>
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<p>“here’s something I find distressing in and of itself, Sandusky obviously perceived anything he did at PSU as protected.”</p>
<p>No doubt due to this type of mentality:</p>
<p>“I wish to say that Tim Curley and Gary Schultz have my unconditional support,” Penn State President Graham Spanier said in a statement on Saturday.</p>