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<p>I don’t think we can say this for sure. According the principal who reported the '09 case, he had no luck finding out what happened to the investigation. His questions were met basically with “no comment.” The difference is that Paterno could have asked Sandusky directly if he was being investigated, but we don’t know if Sandusky would be honest.</p>
<p>^ My reply in post #1386.</p>
<p>How do you know he waited 9 years. Again how do you know he was not told soon after the meeting between Schultz and the GA that there was on ongoing investigation and that he was later told it went nowhere. Facts please- how do you know.</p>
<p>I will make a guess that some of you hate college sports so much that you see this as an opportunity to tear them down. That you have a secret agenda and use this tragedy to further that. Because the majority of major college sports are played by African Americans you are all secretly racists and want to take away opportunities from them. I have no facts but it just is so obvious. The fact that you can taint the sainted Joe Paterno is the perfect foil for you and your wicked agenda. Shame on you.
Do I need facts to make that charge against you?</p>
<p>No, tom, I hate it when people do not do what they should do in abeyance to powerful institutions and in self-interest.</p>
<p>Football schmootball</p>
<p>Have fun at the game!</p>
<p>“How do you know he waited 9 years.”</p>
<p>Pardon me, not 9 years, I meant from 2002 to 2009. 7 years. How do we know there was not an investigation in 7 years, because it would have stated so in the Grand Jury report.</p>
<p>You implied P may have inquired about an investigation, but was not told anything. My reply - wait 7 years to see if there is an investigation?</p>
<p>I do not go to the games and am not a Penn State fan. I went to a Division 3 college and follow no college or pro team faithfully. I believe in fairness and facts. If Paterno is guilty he should be condemned, if he purposefully covered for a predator he should rot in hell. Why the rush to judgment- does it help the victims to accuse someone who may be innocent?</p>
<p>Maybe there was not an investigation again with facts how would Paterno have known that if he was told otherwise by Schultz? Should Paterno have run the investigation himself?</p>
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<p>While we’re going with ridiculous defenses, why not assume that Paterno had a temporary bout of amnesia after each time he heard about Sandusky from others?</p>
<p>No one can possible “prove” that wrong, so there we go. Paterno is restored.</p>
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<p>He could have picked up his phone and called the police and found out for himself.</p>
<p>“I think he behaved like an ordinary person in a crisis.”</p>
<p>Ordinary people (I don’t think) harbor their pedophilic friends for more than a decade, join the boards of their organizations, give them office space, and provide them with access to young boys. These are things we know Paterno did, these are facts, so we don’t have to speculate about them.</p>
<p>Ordinary people, when reporting on the pedophilic actions of their friends, might likely be interested in what happened as a result? </p>
<p>JoePa (unless, again, he is dumber than a brick, or suffering from dementia) was no ordinary person, but the face of evil.</p>
<p>“I will make a guess that some of you hate college sports so much that you see this as an opportunity to tear them down. That you have a secret agenda and use this tragedy to further that. Because the majority of major college sports are played by African Americans you are all secretly racists and want to take away opportunities from them. I have no facts but it just is so obvious. The fact that you can taint the sainted Joe Paterno is the perfect foil for you and your wicked agenda. Shame on you.
Do I need facts to make that charge against you?”</p>
<p>Not exactly the same thing Tom, but good try.</p>
<p>besides sandusky, is there a possibility of civil lawsuits against others that are involved?</p>
<p>Can anyone explain to me why Sandusky was allowed to take the boy who sparked the investigation out of school without his mother’s consent? I would be suing that school, too. Can someone really take our kids out of school without permission?</p>
<p>Tom, I admire your idealism. For real.</p>
<p>tet- I am assuming nothing. I have repeatedly said he could be guilty of anything from a cover up, to being an enabler, to being gullible, to being dumb or to being mislead. He also could have done more than we currently know.</p>
<p>Ohiomom- where did I say it is the same thing? I made a charge based on emotion and without facts. It is offensive isn’t it.</p>
<p>zooser- Joe Paterno told the school they had to let him.</p>
<p>Tom, let me say why I have no doubt about Paterno’s culpability and what I think is particularly evil about his actions. Sometimes an incident like the one in 2002 happens and your hope is that it was a one off thing, that Paterno spoke to Sandusky and felt that he would never do it again. The problem is the incident in 1998. There was a major investigation that took place where the facts say that Sandusky was accused of horrible deeds. It completely defies logic that Paterno did not know about this in 1998-Sandusky at the time was his heir apparent and defensive co-ordinator. The next year at the age of 55 Sandusky mysteriously retires. Then the 2002 incident happens that according to the NY Times Paterno was clearly told by an eye-witness what happened in that shower. At that point there is no question that you have a predator on your hand—after that point everything that happened to any child Joe Paterno might not have done the act but in my mind he was right there.</p>
<p>The gentleman in question in the PennLive report who could not get any information on the progress, if any, of the investigation was the superindendent of the district, not the principal of the school. This is a perfect example of how inaccuracies immediately creep into any discussion of this matter. Some of them–not this one–are potentially substantive.</p>
<p>Interestingly, HE was the one who called in the authorities, not the principal and coach to whom the offense was first reported. Apparently their procedure must have been to go up the administrative structure. Hmmmm…</p>
<p>Other rats trying to flee sinking ship. “I knew nothing” run</p>
<p>[AG’s</a> office rebuts lawyer’s Second Mile, Penn State claim](<a href=“http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11315/1189180-100.stm]AG’s”>http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11315/1189180-100.stm)</p>
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<p>Ever heard of the deep pockets theory?</p>