Related, I also saw another article recently about gold name necklaces: http://fusion.net/story/364683/white-girls-black-stop-wearing-nameplate-necklaces/ (some NSFW language)
That one bothered me! My dearest piece of jewelry is a gold nameplate necklace that my mom had made for me when I was a baby. She gave it to me on my 18th birthday. I wear it all the time.
I certainly believe her it’s a deliberate act of defiance. She could accommodate to the status quo. This has been an issue for LGBTQ young people I know with their first job interviews. How do they present? Some have refused to change their style at all.
Again, I like her. She’s thoughtful. Her thoughts will be more sophisticated after her college coursework, I imagine, but she’s thinking about a whole lot of different things here. Her perspective is interesting to me. I learned something.
Stupid demands are being made, and the word “intersectionality” is being used. Not a coincidence.
Some more about what’s happened with this story:
A Pitzer student wrote up the incident for the Claremont Independent, a Claremont consortium paper that is more conservative voice. The story was then picked up by a number of conservative sources around the country, including provocateurs like Milo Yiannopoulos.
Other Pitzer students then denounced the student who wrote the CI piece, saying that by writing the piece and mentioning the full names of the women involved in painting the mural he had exposed the painters to online harassment (the women have received death threats in response). The CI writer is quite conservative himself, but the CI piece was not an opinion piece.
Free speech, the nature of journalism, the role of differing opinions in the academic environment–all that and more, in addition to the original issue.
“Hoop earrings are seen as ghetto” " I’m sure this affects things like getting jobs and promotions."
Glad I don’t live where you do.
@gouf78 right? I am happily wearing gold hoop earrings today teaching western civ and AP World to high school students. Last I checked I wasn’t “ghetto”, but hey… maybe I am and don’t know it. :-j
A friend of mine wore giant hoop earrings until she got on of them caught on something and tore her earlobe through. Painful.
I find this and the room mate story offensive and really poor representation of the school. Yes, kids can be stupid at that age, but it moves the school down and off the list as the other thread title says. Too much of this non-sense there lately.
@gouf78:
I suspect they are talking certain styles of earrings here, they aren’t talking a simple pair of hoop earrings that many women wear. Having lived in an area that would be considered “inner city” or whatnot, I suspect they are talking a certain style, which are usually really big in circumference and tend to be wide in diameter of the body of them in cross section(they look very heavy, but generally are hollow). As to whether it would limit their job opportunities, like some things like visible tattoos and the like, it might be because they are associated with the ‘inner city look’ and people assume things about the wearer. Same way if you looked at the way the girls dressed in my old neighborhood back in the big hair 80’s (the look Joan Cusack so brilliantly portrayed in “Working Girl”), it likely would limit how they were treated, too (in the movie the character of Tess changes her whole appearence to try and make herself believable).
In the world of financial traders and investment banking, at least among men, height believe it or not makes a difference in who they hire, it is a lot harder to get a job like that if you are less than a certain height IME…kind of ridiculous and I doubt it is a written requirement for the job, but it still seems like there is a bias towards that.
If this is also true for women, than being short could add intersectionality to your feminism. Which would entitle you to wear hoops.
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“the Pitzer students then denounced the student who wrote the CI piece, saying that by writing the piece and mentioning the full names of the women involved in painting the mural he had exposed the painters to online harassment (the women have received death threats in response).”
What is WRONG with people!? Lord a mighty!
I’ll wear hoop earrings if I want (and have long before the protester was even born) and if you want to paint on a wall (seems to be a “free speech wall” ) that I shouldn’t then okay. We’re entitled to our respective opinions. And maybe our opinions will change over time in one direction or another (if we still care and haven’t bigger fish to fry.)
The author of the article said " X" painted " such and such" because “X” believed " whatever". That’s reporting. Not underage, no crimes involved. You painted the wall for a purpose–take ownership.
Why should the author of the article be denounced?
The people who need to be denounced are the morons who respond with harassment and death threats.
The real problem I see these days is that people so easily hide behind anonymity. There is no need to defend outrageous views nor be held accountable for what is essentially verbal assault. Social filters are sadly lacking.
This is a link to a family photograph I contributed to the sztetl.org website, showing my mother’s grandfather with his parents and younger siblings in Stolp, Pomerania in 1859. My great-great-grandmother, on the far left, was wearing hoop earrings. She was German-Jewish, not Latina. So it’s part of my cultural heritage as well! (Although, in fact, I never actually wear hoop earrings myself.)
http://www.sztetl.org.pl/getfile2.php?class=image&m=&x=1000&y=800&id=114619
I bet there isn’t a hiring manager on the planet who wouldn’t hire someone because they are wearing hoop earnings. Good grief. People need to get a grip (and a life.)
Just an aside–As someone mentioned above, gold earrings and bracelets were often the “family bank”.
They still are today. The family pay check is transferred into gold as chain links in a bracelet and worn daily.
Despite the long history of hoop earrings to Sumatra, Greece, Rome, there was a period that only slaves and prostitutes wore them and so were looked down upon. I’m sure this period is where the “cultural appropriation” debate must come from. But now it seems incredibly divisive and shallow at the same time to make this a point of contention between races.
History evolves and fashion moves fast. Fashion faster because it draws it’s inspiration from all the cultures. It’s always looking for something new. It actually acts as a unifying factor in society blending culture with something new.
I didn’t try to verify, but a lot of the comments traced hoop earrings even farther back to Iraq.
Yes, I’m quite sure that hoop earrings have been found in present-day Iraq in tombs dating back before 2000 B,C.E. Whether they were Sumerian or Old Babylonian, I don’t recall.
Funniest thing I’ve read all day. I have become entirely positive that anyone anywhere anytime can offend someone about anything.
http://www.finishtheoutfit.com/blog/hoop_earring/
"Of all the accessories a woman can own, the hoop earring is one of the oldest forms of jewelry. They have been around for many years and have been worn by both men and women. Its use has dated back to many different places and cultures. Dating back to ancient Rome, Greece, and even ancient Sumerian culture.
The progress of this particular earring has made its way around different cities and cultures. The first ever hoop earring have been linked to the Sumerian culture, which is now known as Iraq. They then became popular in Egypt, Greece, and Rome.
It is by understanding where the hoop earring derives from that makes us appreciate all the different types of hoop earrings we now know and love. While the hoop earring has come a long way from where it began, it is one of the many styles of earrings that have an impressive craftsmanship and creativity. Many of today’s hoop earrings no longer resemble what they have in the past, but they still remain one of women’s favorite accessories.
While not much is known about who created the first ever hoop earring, or who was the first person to rock this new jewelry, we are glad they did! Throughout the years, the hoop earring trend has come and gone, being super popular from the ‘60s through the ‘90s, and then laying low (but never forgotten) after that."
That’s the most absurd thing ever, @warbrain
Please do not repeat that to anyone because it’s false.
Hoops have been stylish since the 60s and 70s in the US, off and on. They’re back on, just like bellbottom pants came back in and cycled out.
As others have pointed out many many cultures have worn hoops throughout history, from Asian to Mexican to pirates.