All the more reason to make sure you are taking the right classes in the right sequence and giving each and every lecture your full attention.
College isn’t a race. And to be honest- it’s not even about intelligence. I’m sure you are SUPER smart, now you just have to align your work habits with your capabilities!
I still don’t understand why? Doesn’t that site say my SAT score covers it? I mean, I’m fine taking it.
Depends on your major, also, according to
http://tcnj.uberflip.com/i/1498090-fall-2023-placement-ebook/7
All business majors have a test requirement. On an earlier page, it seems the test requirement is satisfied, if one has four years of hs math and a high SAT, may allow starting in calculus.
These policies may be tweaked from year to year, so you will be best served by inquiring directly with TCNJ.
OP doesn’t have 4 years of HS math as defined by TCNJ. However, the fact he managed to get 700+ on his SAT math without any precalculus and while placed in remedial algebra would indicate his math placement was wrong. Studying for and getting a high score on the CLEP precalculus exam would attest to both ability and self discipline.
Twice exceptional students need intellectual challenges otherwise they just… stop. And OP needs to demonstrate daily discipline and autonomy now that he’s been properly diagnosed and treated.
Without that CLEP learning& correct placement score to complement the SAT score, OP will start in precalculus so no harm no foul.
I see. So business students have to test into a level regardless?
I cannot speak for TCNJ.
Unless they’ve taken trigonometry, analysis, or precalculus in HS and have the requisite math score on the SAT. So… most have to, yes (almost all admitted students have the coursework but many do not have the scores or when they do choose to take the test nevertheless because a class too high 1st semester is all it takes to bar you from a business major).
And since you don’t have the coursework, CLEP would sort of solidify the fact you are, in fact, ready for calculus along with the placement test result.
Worst case scenario you don’t get the needed score in one or both and place into precalculus.
You should be proud. But to succeed in math, you need to understand the prior so rather than skip it makes sense to take the next class, even if it doesn’t count, so when you get to college math you’re well prepped - which will better help your future at TCNJ or elsewhere.
Get a very high GPA. That’s usually done by going to every class, every office hour, every review session, studying a ton, working very hard on your problem sets and papers.
BTW, ameliorate means to decrease the bad effect of something. For example, your high SAT score ameliorated the impact of your low GPA on your college admissions process. It doesn’t mean to improve something, in a positive, active way. You want to improve your chances of transferring, not to ameliorate your chances of transferring.
For the moment, you are absolutely best off focusing on how to do well at TCNJ. You can worry about transferring after you’ve had two great semesters there, if you still feel you should transfer.
Sorry for the word misuse! I was speaking from cognizance of the exceedingly low transfer rates at many top business schools. I suppose that isn’t fully right.
I understand, but I am fully qualified to take calculus. Thank you for the concern though.
My son took Calc AB in HS, 5 on the exam, had to withdraw from Calc 2 in college.
College isn’t high school.
You may be ready…you may not be.
Even if you have to take an extra class to catch up, if you’re looking to transfer you want to ensure the highest grades.
If your “penalty” is having to take one extra class, don’t let it stop you - crush it and then crush the next week. You’ll be that much more ready.
Fair enough! I’ll look into that.
Regardless of the why - you got a 2.5 in high school. Yes, you’ve made changes.
But that doesn’t mean you are yet super man.
If you prove yourself…then you’ll have options.
Trying to race ahead when you’ve not yet proved yourself may not be a winning strategy.
Slow down, if it takes a few extra courses, it’s ok.
There’s no escaping that CLEP test to prove you know how to study, know all the concepts inside out, and can perform extremely well on a high-stakes test. It wont be sufficient for you to pass -you need the highest score you can get.
There are no shortcuts.
Either you know the material and can prove it or you take the class at TCNJ. (They also offer the alternative of taking the class at specific community colleges but the semester has already started.)
Oh, cognizance. You mean, like, knowledge? You might want to take the writing intensive freshman comp you may have placed out of, plus the upper level one you will need. You will benefit greatly from the feedback in both.
I speak four languages, my bad. Forgive me for the rudeness, but I am less than appreciative of the insinuation that because I misused a word, my English is not up to par. Anyone can make a typo or use a word wrong occasionally; I am not Hemingway. If you were genuinely being constructive, I apologize.
Forgive me. What I’m trying to tell you is that you’d be better off writing simply and clearly, rather than trying to work high level vocabulary into your writing. It comes off awkwardly, especially when you use vocabulary that you have not yet mastered. I would hope that your high school English teacher has already told you that. This is why I advised you to take the freshman comp class that you probably placed out of, because you would benefit from more coaching on writing, especially if you are considering law school.
You say that you are currently enrolled at TCNJ, a perfectly fine school. You also say that you “start my freshman year in August.” I presume that means that you will start in August, '24? And you are already planning on transferring, eight months before you will start college.
It’s not that this website doesn’t like transferring. It’s that you are more likely to be successful in achieving your goals (or any goals, for that matter) if you focus on doing well in your first year at TCNJ, and focus on integrating into the college that you will attend, rather than focus on transferring.
Your poor high school record is largely irrelevant to transferring, IF you do well academically at TCNJ. And if you don’t, you won’t be able to transfer to a more selective college. High school is OVER. Your high school ECs don’t matter now. You will not take the SAT again - it is for high school students applying to college, not for transfer students. The most important thing for transferring is to have a high GPA, and a very good reason for transferring. Not having gotten into a prestigious, highly-selective college straight out of high school (because of a mediocre high school GPA) when you’re transferring out of a perfectly fine school like TCNJ is not a good enough reason. You’ll need both a perfect (or near perfect) GPA, AND a coherent reason for transferring. Only you will be able to come up with a coherent reason for transferring to the school to which you’re applying.
What are your career goals? TCNJ is not so far from NYC that you might not be able to get a year-round internship there, in your desired field. It seems to me that you might be better off at TCNJ, with an internship in NYC, than at a “T25” school not within commuting distance of NYC.
If you are in need of financial aid, usually the most generous offers go to freshmen, rather than transfers, so even if you were able to get into a more prestigious school as a transfer, you might not be able to afford it.
Most importantly, you must successfully address the reasons behind that poor high school GPA, so that you will be able to achieve a high GPA at TCNJ. That’s the most important thing that you can do to make it possible to transfer, or to get accepted to a highly selective law school.
I understand. Sorry for the vitriol. I am aware of how early I am asking these questions and how odd that seems. I just thought it would be a fun exercise in goal-setting to create a list of target scores, GPA, and ECs to be a competitive applicant. My thought process was that in any case, the above factors need to be stellar to do any of the three avenues I have felt are options(Law, Transfer, other postgrad). Why not make it a shorter-term goal of two good years in order to keep myself accountable?
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