OOS COA at Purdue is $40-42K depending on dorm type.
I have to agree with @VirginiaBelle about UNC. It’s possible, but being from Wake with CS, it’s uncertain. I don’t think Wake uses Naviance, but check with your GC about acceptances from your school for CS. I think NCSU is more likely and is an amazing in-state option. What is your budget? Sit down with your parents and run the NPCs for each school. Will your budget allow you to live on campus? What experiences are you looking for in a college (vibe, size, opportunities)? What do you like about RIT? If you let us know what you’re looking for, we may be able to suggest other schools to add to your list. Don’t discount UNCC; their location in proximity to tech and banking offers great internship opportunities. They have some great research going on; being a big fish in a small pond can lead to great LORs and research opportunities
Amateur admission counselor is a stretch for me ! However I do have family and friends in North Carolina and have seen and heard this play out a few times. Same thing happens at Georgia Tech which is our in state option. Similar in-state admission percentage with lots of kids like the OP waitlisted especially this year. It’s like UNC in that is not a very big school, has a smaller freshman class for a public institution, and has to take a balance from all over the state. And you throw in an impacted major I would not count on an admission as a safety. Always plenty of head scratchers!
Also something to be aware of: UNC has announced a plan but then paused it about moving to an admissions-based program for computer science. Losing the direct admit to the computer science program or limiting the people who can declare the major would be another factor.
Okay, yeah so I don’t really know what to “research” in a college. What should I do? I know you mentioned running the NPCs, looking at size and opportunities and such but what else is there to do? If you could give me a comprehensive list on what to look for in a college, then that would be greatly appreciated.
Also, would I not get a full-ride to ASU? My stats seem much higher than the threshold.
Go visit some of the campuses near your home. Do you like big or small? Urban vs rural? What do you get excited about when you visit? Labs and facilities? Beautiful architecture? Strong sports? Greek life?
Then look for vibe - collaborative or competitive? Hands on learning or more theoretical? Are coops important to you or not?
What does the four year plan of study look like for schools on your list? Do you want room for lots of electives or are you happy with lots of required courses?
ASU has a scholarship estimator at https://scholarships.asu.edu/estimator
Note: “National Scholar” is National Merit Finalist or College Board National Recognition Program.
I must say, my view of this is the complete opposite. If you don’t want to be at a safety, don’t put it on the list. A safety has to satisfy two things. It must me a guaranteed acceptance and it must be affordable. Beyond that, there’s nothing that says it has to be your last choice. As a matter of fact, if you find a school that is a guaranteed admit, is absolutely in your budget, and is a perfect fit, you can apply to that school and no others.
what they said. Another thing of importance: career services.
I’m most familiar with mid Atlantic and southeast schools, so I’ll leave others to comment on ASU. Do some soul-searching so to speak and let us know what you’re looking for in a school, and we’ll be able to come up with some additional school options to research.
However, the OP wrote previously:
That’s the problem. The OP needs a more solid understanding of “better.” That statement, in and of itself is a microcosm of what is wrong with college admissions today.
Better would mean a greater yield in high paying jobs, campus recruitment, prestige, reputation, status, and the surrounding of highly intellectual peers.
Again, that’s a problem. Many of those terms are nebulous and some can be at odds with one and other. For example, who determines “prestige, reputation, and status?” How, if at all, do those relate to “high paying jobs and campus recruitment?”
Taking that one step further, do you know how many TAs the “prestigious” institution will employ and what the ratio to full time faculty is? Do you know the salary median and range for your expected major? These are searchable things in government databases. The results might surprise you.
Searching College Scorecard, essentially the only source of non-self reported salary data, even with the limitation of who it tracks, is pretty revealing. The average Mechanical Engineering salary at Georgia Tech, certainly perceived as a world class engineering school, is $70,000. Michigan Tech, a school I can guarantee you’ve never heard of unless you’re from the upper Midwest…$71,000.
Sometimes you find the things you think are related aren’t. You have to dig deeper, or you can take the blue pill and stay in the Matrix.
Prestige, reputation, and status is determined by the public’s knowledge of the institution. For example, Harvard and all the ivys are the top universities and the public knows that they are. High paying jobs like FAANG companies (referring to top CS jobs in this case) come to these highly prestigious universities. Once again, for example, a FAANG recruitment officer would choose Harvard over NC State. But I completely understand where you’re coming from, could you please provide me with the resources to figure out the average salary for each school, determining my fit, and other important info?
Would they? Do you have a source for this? The data is a little old, but would it surprise you if I told you that NC State is #13 in the list of top feeder schools to Silicon Valley and that there is one Ivy in the top 25, Cornell at 15? (That list is from 2017 and isn’t controlled for institution size.)
The most recent survey I can find is from SHL in 2020. I descending order, the top schools for Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and Google are:
University of Washington
Again, not controlled for enrollment.
Same survey, top 10 tech companies:
University of Washington
Gotcha. I looked at this website: [Top Feeders to Tech] and NC state isn’t even on the list. So where is this information? Could you please provide the source?
I’ll link the article below.
The issue with your article is that it’s LinkedIn data and they only harvested the top 2 employers. Notice though who is 25th, behind 16 state schools? Harvard.
You can replicate what they did on a school to school basis on LinkedIn. Search for the school. Once in, select alumni. Then select computer science under what they studied. I like to look at the top 10. Leave out jobs related to the school because most of those show up from student jobs.
I’m in no way advocating for NC State. I’m simply trying to get you to take the red pill and open your eyes. That said, the top 10 employers for NC State CS grads in descending order: SAS, Amazon, IBM, Microsoft, Cisco, Amazon Web Services, Google, Red Hat, Fidelity, Facebook.
There will be regionality to these with companies closer to schools more heavily represented. For example, San Jose State’s top CS employer is Apple and SAS and Red Hat aren’t in the top 5.
You are a formidable candidate. Georgia Tech is the obvious high reach on your list. It would be for anybody. I’d say it’s followed by Purdue as a reach, maybe a high match. You are in state for NC so your chances are good there, I think.
As already stated, you should look into RPI and WPI. U Maryland too. Those are in the broader match category, or maybe low reach. I think NCSU and RiT are safeties (especially NCSU) but these days, you should look for more of those.
Not sure how you came to this conclusion when I discussed two schools. The others are good matches, but you should always have solid safety schools.