Pledge Of Allegiance: "One Nation, Under God"

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Is it ignorant to be cautious when walking through a ghetto at night? So if Jeffrey Dhamers was just born with an instinct to rape and kill people, it’s ignorant to be morally opposed to his crimes? If someone is mentally insane, and commits a crime, is it ignorant to punish them?

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<p>Very nice comparisons. All of these involve physical harm or breaking the law. As far as I know, being gay isn’t against the law and doesn’t cause harm. Like I said before, ignorance is a lack of understanding. If someone discriminates against or hurts someone based on a trait that is not criminal, I think it is safe to say that person is pretty ignorant.</p>

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Assuming people are ignorant “just because they don’t support gay rights,” is kind of ignorant in itself, when you never investigated the reasons as to why people may feel that way.

1. Why the quotes? I never said that.
2. The reason they feel that way shouldn’t matter. The fact that they feel that way shouldn’t matter, either, but apparently it does in this country. Prop 8 and the current “DADT Survey” show that. </p>

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Maybe you being gay doesn’t affect others, and maybe it does.

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<p>Nope, it really doesn’t.</p>

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Maybe you just can’t bring yourself to understand homosexuality just offends people, like other sexually abnormal actions. It seems like you lack the understanding to think people can just feel like something is wrong.

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<p>You’re right about that. I have no idea why it “just offends” people. People should have reasons for their beliefs. I’d never play Russian Roulette just because I had a feeling it would turn out well. I don’t think people should discriminate based on gut feelings.</p>

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You have no “proof” that homosexuality is okay, you just think it is. Yet you would not consider yourself ignorant.

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<p>Okay? We have no proof that ANYTHING is okay, because okay is such an ambiguous term. I have no proof that heterosexuality is okay. I have no proof that toddlers are okay. The point is, I don’t bother or interfere with their lives, and I don’t make judgments against them other than the former are attracted to the opposite sex and the latter are young. What is your point here?</p>

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Honestly, when I’m walking around at night at school, I have a heightened awareness when I encounter certain people. Why? Because people belonging to a certain group raped on of my friends, broke into a friends house, robbed a friend at knifepoint and broke a friends head open with a glass bottle after breaking into their house. You may call me ignorant, but my life experiences have shaped my views and I have reasons for it.

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<p>If you really thought it was ok to harbor those feelings, I think you would have said the group you are afraid of rather than calling them “certain people.” Huh? Maybe the moral of the story is to be careful when you’re walking around at night anywhere, around anyone. </p>

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I think it is judgemental [sic] to think someone is ignorant for believing the bible or koran or a religious doctrine that opposes homosexuality. Their beliefs aren’t physically harming people, just like your homosexuality isn’t.

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<p>A lot of people that have and vocalize these beliefs commit homicide against homosexuals and cause tons of emotional damage to kids growing up gay. I would not say that they are harmless at all.</p>