<p>Thanks, ChaosTheory. I partially agree with InquilineKea — maybe there should be an optional course that combines AB and BC calculus in one year? From the BC course description, it seems like BC calc just covers Riemann integration and a little bit of differential equations.</p>
<p>Well, many students go straight from Precalculus (or even Algebra II) to BC Calculus, and they do fine. From what I’ve heard, in a regular BC Calculus class, AB will be covered the first semester. However, some of the AB concepts are assumed to be known in BC and aren’t re-taught. Usually, these are the most basic operations.</p>
<p>I briefly considered answering this thread.</p>
<p>Then I remembered that I am a third-trimester senior who is already into college and hasn’t taken one math or science class this year.</p>
<p>Bahahah.</p>
<p>So yeah, coming from someone who is truly calctarded: all you 8th graders who are worrying about the fact that you’re only in regular geometry and not honors–in the long run it SO DOES NOT MATTER.</p>
<p>7th Grade: Pre-algebra
8th Grade: Algebra I
9th Grade: Hons. Geometry
10th Grade: Hons. Precalc and Hons. Algebra 2 (AP calculus independently)</p>
<p>BC calculus is only about two more chapters longer than AB. You can take AB course and self-study BC. That’s what I’m trying to do, at least :)</p>
<p>Chaostheory is completely wrong. AP Calculus BC is meant to be taught with three semesters of Calculus. It’s an addition of a semester of Calculus onto AP Calculus AB. Some schools require taking AP Calculus AB and AP Calculus BC seperately because they add Multivariable Calculus into BC so you learn two semesters each year.</p>
<p>Really? Do they add Calculus of several variables into BC? I’m not sure. It’s not in the topic outline that the CB provides.</p>
<p>You guys need to read it, they only offered Calculus until the 2000s. ALSO, ONLY 30 STUDENTS DID IT AND THEY HAD TO DO IT AT A SUMMER CAMP. THESE STUDENTS WERE 7-12. Some people can’t read here. He couldn’t have done it at home. WOW YOU GUYS NEED TO READ.</p>
<p>They only began the honors geometry course in 2001. <a href=“http://epgy.stanford.edu/overview/history.html[/url]”>http://epgy.stanford.edu/overview/history.html</a></p>
<p>Too bad we have a liar and a bunch of illiterate people.</p>
<p>I said schools, you are clueless Chaostheory…Plus, collegeboard said 3 semesters. READ CAREFULLY.</p>
<p>Masterus, I’m curious, what math are you in? And what about in 8th grade?</p>
<p>I was planning on doing the AP Calculus AB exam, but the trignometry from Precalculus was done in november so AP Calculus BC to answer your question, which I have already completed. I’ve just been doing practice AP Exams, etc.</p>
<p>*Calculus A was completed back in december/beginning of January around so I just went ahead through online courses.</p>
<p>Really? Sheesh, I’m in hon geometry.</p>
<p>But what about in 8th grade?</p>
<p>It doesn’t really matter what I’m in; focus on yourself. I don’t really care about anyone on this forum either because they don’t matter to me.</p>
<p>Well I was hoping that you could give me some advice since I’m in Geometry and you’re in Calculus and whatnot. I need some advice about how I should plan my math classes for next year. Since you’ve already taken the classes that I want to take, I’d like to know what sequence you did so I could follow that example.</p>
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Heh heh heh :)</p>
<p>I did every sequence by the book, basically no skipping. I was born like this. :)</p>
<p>Great thread.</p>
<p>Do your schools monitor those kids who placed into 9th grade Algebra for an upgrade into the honors track? In my daughter’s school, if you begin with Algebra you end with Functions/Trig, but you’re not adequately prepared for engineering leve calculus. I honestly think this is a huge contributor to the reduced engineering/science enrollments trend, as there are many late-bloomers who eventually can study advanced math.</p>
<p>In my old day, we took:
9 - Algebra
10 - Geometry
11 - Algebra 3 and Trig
12 - College Algebra and Analytic Geometry</p>
<p>No calculus till college. In some ways this was an advantage, as our classes were in-depth and proof-based.</p>
<p>Also, 10th and 11th grade were honors independent study - not one minute spent listening to a teacher (unless you asked for help). You went at your own pace and chose when to take chapter tests. I finished the 2nd year 2.5 months early and finished the year studying Boolean Algebra. Why don’t more schools do this?? It was wonderful!</p>
<p>Yes, it does matter. Enough about me. Let’s talk about YOU. That’s how I am. I’m CRITICAL. I like to criticize OTHER people, because I’m already perfect.</p>
<p>Sound familiar? ;)</p>
<p>DS’s class finished BC Calc in December last year. They do not take AB prior to that. They fly high, fast and with precision. There’s a reason the class isn’t titled AP BC Calc. The rest of the year they go farther and deeper, and their homework assignments towards the end of the year are FINALS from second semester Honors Calc sequences from Dartmouth, UMD, and Michigan. (The teacher uses the old tests as is, so I have seen the school designations myself.) There are a couple of things on the BC exam where knowledge of some MV is useful, but is NOT required.</p>
<p>By the time one finishes MV/DiffEq around here (which is taught at the honors level of a top 15 math program), one is ready to launch into Analysis coursework.</p>
<p>Masterus, you don’t hold the corner of the market on what’s available to whom, how and the details of what schools or other groups may offer highly talented students. When you mature some more, you’ll understand. There are many here who don’t disclose everything they know because to do so would reveal too much information. Don’t assume that it’s ignorance.</p>
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<p>I daresay you’d be wrong in assuming all my classes were taken via EPGY:</p>
<p>1st Algebra I – EPGY
2nd Algebra II – EPGY
8th Algebra I – they stuck me into all 8th grade classes as part of some sort of research project, so I took this at school. It was painful, I think I failed one of the finals (which reflects quite badly on EPGY since I got an A in the EPGY course, so distance-learners beware)
8th Geometry – they had me retake the same 8th grade classes at the same school except they pushed me up a math level. (I got to fail English because I was eight and had no glasses. w00t.)
6th Some formal logic class – local program you haven’t heard of
6th Elementary school math – my evil middle school
7th Algebra I – middle school (rest assured, I knew Algebra I pretty well by now)
8th Algebra II/Geometry – EPGY/middle school</p>
<p>But now I’m rather curious about your educational background. It must have been far superior to mine, given you qualified for USAMO in eighth grade. Care to disclose how you managed it? How did you prepare? What books did you read? What was your target score?</p>